Air travel

I have a strange love and hate relationship with air travel. When I was young I used to just get on an aeroplane and not even thought about it!

As I got over I would think about it more and more and think about the fact that it should not even be possible. I used to worry and sweat at take off, the flying part being fine and the landing apart from the pressure in the ears.

From 20-35 I used to travel a lot by air for work and pleasure and thought the fear would go away, but if anything it got worse!

until last week I had a 4 year gap in flying, but did not have any fear at all! It was like it had all gone! I have no idea why?!

If you look at the stats we have a fear which should not be there as it is the safest way to travel by far. I think it has to be to do with these tons of metal that we do not fully understand and feel out of control of?

What are you lot like flying?

I love flying, apart from the insane checking in hours before you fly business.

My bloke, who was in the RAF cadets as a lad, hates flying now. Heā€™s not frightened - not at all. But he gets an awful ā€˜my brain is going to burstā€™ sensation on take-off and now heā€™s quite paranoid about flying altogether. Once airborne heā€™s fine and landingā€™s no problem either - just the take off.

Thatā€™s why we go by train if weā€™re going abroad. But thatā€™s OK because I love train travel and itā€™s so much less hassle.

Originally posted by @hoofinruth

Thatā€™s why we go by train if weā€™re going abroad. But thatā€™s OK because I love train travel and itā€™s so much less hassle.

You ever tried travelling from the UK to i.e. America or Australia by train, ruth? :wink:

As for plane travel, I was quite nervous the first few times but have no problem with it at all these days, although long fights can get a little tedious.

I love travelling, but the checking in is nuts! It is very strange how my fear seems to have vanished!

It is strange but there is always a huge queue for the gents cubicles just before check in. I think people are a little more scared than they let on as the slightest bump gives it away on peopleā€™s faces!

I think for some people itā€™s not so much the fear of crashing; itā€™s more the thought of being confined in a relatively small place for several hours. And, of course, some people have a problem with not being able to smoke during the flight.

itā€™s alright

Lest I be accused of approaching this subject dangling over a fence, itā€™s a fucking human sheep-dip laced with captive capitalism and it does my head in. Going outside our country (effectively the EU for travel purposes) can be a complete pain in the arse.

I give them no power. Shoes and belt are already off if and when they ask, and I know itā€™s a small thing, but itā€™s the difference between ā€œyes, sir!ā€ and ā€œyouā€™ve wasted your fucking time, guvā€. It means a lot.

Btw, talking of train travel, when Iā€™ve got more time I might tell you about the time Mrs Stickman, me and our two young sons shared a six berth cabin with two complete strangers on the overnight sleeper train from Paris Bercy to Florence. Suffice it for the moment to say that there were many times during that long and torturous night that I would have given anything to have been sat on a bloody aeroplane.

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Thanks for the info. I didnā€™t realise they did that, and was considering taking the sleeper from Barcelona to Paris. Can you book a specific berth cabin?

Pap, we made that journey in the early 2000s. Mrs S booked it through a travel agent attached to her place of work who told her that 6 berth cabins were standard. I wasnā€™t happy about having to share with 2 strangers - 2 Frenchmen as it turned out - and was even more unhappy when we arrived at Paris Bercy to find that the majority of the cabins were 4 berth. Effectively, we had been assigned a sleeper train equivalent of steerage class :slight_frown:

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Scary as hell US airports

Scary as hell airports around the world

Now go and book a flight.

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Reminds me of an Inside No 9 episode.

Have flown I to and out of the old Quito airport twice. Loved Ecuador so felt it was worth it. But there were a few crashes around that time.

I donā€™t really like turbulence. But still think if it falls out of the sky I will be dead fairly quick. The faffing at airports is tedious and I cannot believe we are still doing g the little bag of toiletries still.

Lol, I just googled that; I did watch some of that series but didnā€™t know theyā€™d made one about French sleeper trains!

Yeah, as I said, someone screwed up our travel arrangements so that we ended up sharing a six-berth cabin with strangers. The outward journey we shared with a young American women who told us that it was the first time sheā€™d ever shared the journey with a family and that we were much nicer travelling companions than some of the characters sheā€™d travelled with. She didnā€™t go into details - I donā€™t think she wanted to scare the children - and whether she still felt the same way after spending the night with us, I couldnā€™t say. However, it did seem far too small and intimate a space for a young family to be sharing with strangers. During the trip I also discovered that one of the urinals in the communal toilet at that end of the train was leaking and the floor was covered in piss.

But the real fun and games occurred on the homeward journey, which we shared with two Frenchmen. The first was a smarmy David Ginola type who Mrs Stickman seemed to take an instant shine to; the second was about six and a half feet tall, built like a brick-shit-house, and incredibly moody. On entering the cabin he ignored my outstretched hand, growled something in French, which Ginola-chap roughly translated as: ā€œIā€™m very tired, I want to sleep, I donā€™t want to be disturbedā€; and without further ado he removed my stuff from the bottom bunk, pulled down the blinds, closed the cabin door, turned off the lights, undressed, and climbed into bed.

There was just about enough light for me to notice my kids glance at their mother; she glanced at Ginola-chap; he glanced at me; and I completed the circle by glancing at Mrs Stickman, whilst thinking; ā€˜this will be the last time youā€™ll be making the fucking travel arrangementsā€™.

I slept fitfully that night: part of the time I spent wondering whether Mrs Stickman and Ginola-chap were sleeping or whatever; part of the time I spent planing what I would do if brick-shit-house-chap turned out be a psychotic child-killer; but most of the time I spent wondering how a human-being could snore that fucking loudly.

Anyway, I must have gone to sleep at some point because half way through that long night I woke up breaking my neck for a piss. I didnā€™t dare disturb brick-shit-house-chap by turning on the light, but, fumbling around in the darkness, the only pair of shoes I could find were his. A few moments later I found myself pissing into an overflowing urinal, stood in a pair of shoes at least six or seven sizes too big, whilst praying their owner hadnā€™t woken up and noticed they were missing. It was at that point I resolved the next time we travelled it would be by fucking aeroplane.

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First flight was in the mid '70s by Laker Airways to New York on an ancient Boeing 707 (one of the oldest flying I was later informed). I didnā€™t know how Iā€™d feel but not being great with heights and getting into lifts the prospects werenā€™t great.

Sure enough, I hated take-offā€¦the interminable boredom in the middle and the abject terror at the end. Apart from that fine. In the early days it was largely, not knowing what was going on and the control thingā€¦not being in control of a situation.

Over the years Iā€™ve come to terms with the fear bit and itā€™s never stopped me flying but flying anywhere ā€œCattle Classā€ isnā€™t my idea of funā€¦just the shit part of having great holidays.

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Halo - next time you plan to travel on a sleeper through Europe, have a look at this website first

http://www.seat61.com/

Lots of great advice and information in there.

A few years ago 6 of us went from High Wycombe to the Canal du Midi by train using the sleeper service. It was OK obviously because our sleeper car contained only us but it was the most hilarious journey (3 snoring men with smelly feet).

Great service although devoid of any sort of refreshment so, when we changed at Avignon, we descended on the station cafe like a bunch of ravenous wolves.

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Cheers 'ruth!

Donā€™t get me started on the smelly feet

ā€¦ or the farting :slight_frown:

Itā€™s not the flying that bothers me, itā€™s all physics after all, Iā€™m not keen on the taking off and landing parts.

The thing I really hate about air travel is having to go lots of hours confined with my kidsā€¦

I remember the first flight I ever took. Aerolineas Argentinas to Madrid, stopping off at Paris, and going on to Buenos Aires afterwards. I thought it was amazing, but equally amazing was the apparent nonchalance of many of my co-passengers. How could they be so indifferent to this spectacle. We were flying, dammit! The vehicles snaking through the streets below looked like toy cars. London looks beautiful from above.

21 years later, I have lost count of the the number of plane journeys I have been on. Conservatively, itā€™s probably in the mid 200s. Wouldnā€™t be surprised if it was in the 300s. Itā€™s strange how much stuff has changed - even among the elder members of my family, air travel was seen as something exotic. Itā€™s all old hat now.

I love flying to get to work and back again I have two eight half hour flights the first from Manila to Dubai the Dubai to Luanda reverse is true 28 days later.

Arrive at the airport after checking in online straight to a check in desk drop the one bag off and through passport control now we do not have airport tax (added to the ticket now) no payments straight to the lounge for the free beer wine spirits and food including the WIFI.

then wait till the last call for the plane straight on sit down stewardess brings a drink champers or orange/ apple juice.

relax with a new movie and as many drinks as I like. food which for airline food is not bad to soak up some of the alcohol. on the Manila dubai flight if you dont like the food availble Pot Noodles are in chicken or beef flavour.

then Arrival in Dubai wisked straight to the terminal and into the lounge for either breakfast dinner or tea depending on time along with more liberal helpings of free vodka and coke.

Again wait for the last call before boarding the plane where once again a film food and free beer beckons.

Arrive in Luanda first to immigration and the baggage carousell no customs to speak of and a short bus ride to the hotel where a couple of liveners and a meal before a good night sleep and then 28 day drying out at work.

Repeat every 56 days :slight_smile: