Well this is surprising news - that it took so long.
Asked how he would like to plea to the charges, Choudary said: âI plead that Cameron and the police are guilty and the only people who are innocent are me and Mr Rahman."
âGuiltyâ or âNot-guiltyâ FFS
Just doing a test. Is that what I done there really illegal? I usually know when Iâm doing bad things, and it didnât feel v.bad really. Will it be me, or Pap, that gets Arrested?
Originally posted by @Bearsy
**Bearsyâs deleted post**
Right, thatâs the end of my career.
Originally posted by @Furball
Originally posted by @Bearsy
**Bearsyâs deleted post**
Right, thatâs the end of my career.
**pap being a twat**.
What on earth are you on about?
And why delete Brianâs post?
Originally posted by @Furball
What on earth are you on about?
May have got the wrong end of the stick. I thought you were announcing the end of your posting career. Again.
He was joking, so was I. Besides, my career is somewhat independnt of this site!
Fair enough. I misunderstood, and am humble enough to say so.
Pls donât leave frbl I donât rly recruit for Isis that was just a Misunderstanding
Sorry for deleting your posts, Bear. I ummed and erred on the second one, but decided that speculating on attractive pension benefits probably wiggled its toe over the line.
Iâm ok! For record tho, I was actually making a point about Freedom Of Speech, or something, as Iâm not completely comfortable with the Law theyâre using to prosecute these bros.
Originally posted by @pap
Fair enough. I misunderstood, and am humble enough to say so.
No worries. And no harm done.
I was concerned for a moment Iâd need to run a âJe suis Brianâ campaign.
Can we come out nowâŚ<takes fertive look around>
Actually, pap, this is a problem I do have in my place of work. Being able to talk freely - and even joke - while the government issues threats about who we âallowâ to speak on campuses is a live issue.
My view - and I agree with Brian - is that neither Choudary and his ilk nor this government should crowd out precisely the kind of discussion and engagement that diminishes (by ridicule, argument, you name it) ever more ludicrous variants of extremists.
Yeah I think weâve narrowly escaped having pro-terrorism added to our list of charges. Weâre just the sexist booblies & racist dad frm again!
It depends. Are you pro or anti ISIS?
On the law thing tho, is anyone worried that itâs vaguely in the same ball park as I.e McCarthy-era, and I.e when they wouldnât let Gerry Adams on tv, and, to stretch a point, Nelson Mandela?
Fight words with words is prob my view, rather than I.e Chokey.
Quite so. One of the ironies of the charge is that Choudary is now covered by sub judice laws, which means no one can call him out.
They never actually stopped Gerry Adams appearing, by the way. The Thatcher regime did something far more stupid - he (and other Sinn Fein and UVF members) was allowed to appear on TV only so long as he was voiced-over by an actor.
Thing is, Choudary got arrested for encouraging people to join ISIS. Bear jokingly tested the idea with a serious angle. Perhaps I was premature in deleting Bearâs posts; self-censorship is another issue weâre all having to face.
Completely agree and have been complaining for years about the erosion of civil liberties. I am not comfortable with the way that the extremist threat has cast suspicion on the entire Muslim population, and I donât believe that anything we have done to help the situation, home or abroad, has actually helped. Quite the opposite really.
Dubya famously remarked that the terrorist would not change the way we live. No they didnât. The tossers in government have done that for us. Weâve got an enabling act on the books, FFS.