Anjem Choudary charged with a terrorism offence

Well this is surprising news - that it took so long.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/aug/05/cleric-anjem-choudary-charged-with-encouraging-support-for-islamic-state

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Asked how he would like to plea to the charges, Choudary said: “I plead that Cameron and the police are guilty and the only people who are innocent are me and Mr Rahman."

“Guilty” or “Not-guilty” FFS

Just doing a test. Is that what I done there really illegal? I usually know when I’m doing bad things, and it didn’t feel v.bad really. Will it be me, or Pap, that gets Arrested?

Originally posted by @Bearsy

**Bearsy’s deleted post**

Right, that’s the end of my career.

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Originally posted by @Furball

Originally posted by @Bearsy

**Bearsy’s deleted post**

Right, that’s the end of my career.

**pap being a twat**.

What on earth are you on about?

And why delete Brian’s post?

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Originally posted by @Furball

What on earth are you on about?

May have got the wrong end of the stick. I thought you were announcing the end of your posting career. Again.

He was joking, so was I. Besides, my career is somewhat independnt of this site!

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Fair enough. I misunderstood, and am humble enough to say so.

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Pls don’t leave frbl I don’t rly recruit for Isis that was just a Misunderstanding

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Sorry for deleting your posts, Bear. I ummed and erred on the second one, but decided that speculating on attractive pension benefits probably wiggled its toe over the line.

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I’m ok! For record tho, I was actually making a point about Freedom Of Speech, or something, as I’m not completely comfortable with the Law they’re using to prosecute these bros.

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Originally posted by @pap

Fair enough. I misunderstood, and am humble enough to say so.

No worries. And no harm done.

I was concerned for a moment I’d need to run a ‘Je suis Brian’ campaign.

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Can we come out now…<takes fertive look around>

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Actually, pap, this is a problem I do have in my place of work. Being able to talk freely - and even joke - while the government issues threats about who we ‘allow’ to speak on campuses is a live issue.

My view - and I agree with Brian - is that neither Choudary and his ilk nor this government should crowd out precisely the kind of discussion and engagement that diminishes (by ridicule, argument, you name it) ever more ludicrous variants of extremists.

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Yeah I think we’ve narrowly escaped having pro-terrorism added to our list of charges. We’re just the sexist booblies & racist dad frm again!

It depends. Are you pro or anti ISIS?

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On the law thing tho, is anyone worried that it’s vaguely in the same ball park as I.e McCarthy-era, and I.e when they wouldn’t let Gerry Adams on tv, and, to stretch a point, Nelson Mandela?

Fight words with words is prob my view, rather than I.e Chokey.

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Quite so. One of the ironies of the charge is that Choudary is now covered by sub judice laws, which means no one can call him out.

They never actually stopped Gerry Adams appearing, by the way. The Thatcher regime did something far more stupid - he (and other Sinn Fein and UVF members) was allowed to appear on TV only so long as he was voiced-over by an actor.

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Thing is, Choudary got arrested for encouraging people to join ISIS. Bear jokingly tested the idea with a serious angle. Perhaps I was premature in deleting Bear’s posts; self-censorship is another issue we’re all having to face.

Completely agree and have been complaining for years about the erosion of civil liberties. I am not comfortable with the way that the extremist threat has cast suspicion on the entire Muslim population, and I don’t believe that anything we have done to help the situation, home or abroad, has actually helped. Quite the opposite really.

Dubya famously remarked that the terrorist would not change the way we live. No they didn’t. The tossers in government have done that for us. We’ve got an enabling act on the books, FFS.