According to Monk of Saintsweb, this story has been leaked by Spurs. Dirty stuff boys. Hope you feel proud.
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Victor Wanyama asks to leave Southampton, say Sky sources
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Victor Wanyama has been linked with a move to Tottenham
Victor Wanyama has told Southampton he wants to leave the Premier League club, according to Sky sources.
…unmelodiously given breath to by Optimus trousers…beta v1.6
Hmm. Wonder if it’s true, first of all. Second, not a very nice tactic from Spurs. Any talk of not being happy for a bit sounds ominous too.
It’s an ugly game, is football. If it wasn’t for the positivity of Southampton, I’d be long disillusioned.
RK is absoutely right. It’s crazy that the transfer window is still open after the season has started.
Totally. Completely opens teams up to dirty tactics. You could win a game with zero intention of actually buying a player. If we were playing Spurs tomorrow, I wonder if this would be treated differently?
Wanyama and Mane are exceptional players. I was surprised we’d got as far as we have without interest before now.
I read that too, i’m a bit sceptical in respect to his comments about Jonjo Shelvey. Sounds a bit off to me. I cover Swansea through work. I’m there at least twice a week. I know the media team there and have filmed interviews with him. He’s get’s on with his teammates and is well respected.
Sky Sources … Tottenham press officer
Damn those North London Yobbos
I do wonder what’s really bugging Big Vic at the moment. Is it his stomach, or something else? Like maintaining team spirit? It’ll be interesting to see how we fare without him tonight.
Originally posted by @pap
I do wonder what’s really bugging Big Vic at the moment. Is it his stomach, or something else?
Probably the same thing that bugs all our better players sooner or later: money.
Though if he’s been signed off by a doctor, as stated, you’d hope professional integrity means enough to them to only do so if he’s genuinely unwell.
Back in the dark days pre-Markus I remember the depression of relegation and mismanagement made me really focus on what I was actually supporting…
The players?
Not really, they come and go, and few actually care about us or have a genuine affection for the club.
There are exceptions, the likes of Rickie, Kelvin and probably Jose of late who have all shared experiences with us, but most are just passing through and do well for themselves as well as us.
What about the board?
No, it was Rupert at the time and the directors’ fees alone on the balance sheet told me where his loyalty lay, he had no relationship with the fans.
The ground?
They knocked down the last one and that was sadder than getting relegated.
So I was just left with the badge and the shirt.
That was it out of the whole club - the only thing I could really say that I cared about was the badge on the shirt, that was the only continuity through the chaos.
Victor will go, sonner or later, he has no loyalty to us.
Thanks Vic, you were good, most of the time - but I’ll miss you as I much as I miss Luke Shaw or Tommy Forecast and it won’t be memories of your goal at Hull that I’ll talk about in old age.
It will be Matt’s last goal at The Dell, or Rickie scoring for England, I’ll remember players who actually loved the club.
I suspect the mighty Kenyan will be just another ship in the night and that’s sad.
It must be great for legends like Matt to know that they have a bunch of people who will always love them.
What of Toby and many others who flit between clubs without generating loyalty?
No one will call them legends, they’ll have no spiritual home at the end of their careers, just a big pile of cash and if they’re really lucky a medal or two.
Good for them, if they like that sort of thing.
Go to United and win five titles, oh yes, that’s legacy.
But go to Spurs and maybe win a League Cup?..
No one will be telling their grandchildren that story.
Originally posted by @Rallyboy
That was it out of the whole club - the only thing I could really say that I cared about was the badge on the shirt, that was the only continuity through the chaos.
There’s another continuity, RB: the fans.
Sure, individual fans sometimes drift away from the club; but the fan base, as a whole, remains.
When I think of Saints, I tend not to think of players, managers, shirts etc; instead, I think of going to my first match with my dad, or travelling to away matches with my mates, or taking my son to his first match, or going with Mrs Stickman to matches, or communicating with fellow supporters on Papsweb. This represents a continuity for me.
Wanyama is risking his future.
Koeman speaks out publicly about the situation with Victor Wanyama. First, it’s superb that he has been able to discuss this relatively openly, and it needed to be done. The potential exits of Wanyama and Mané were the main topics of conversation among the people I bothered today. What united most of the fans was a sense of resignation, and a grudging acceptance that they’ll probably go and it is better to flog players that do not want to be here.
It looks as if Koeman is going to stand firm, so presuming RK has the backing of the board, shipping out is not an option. It’s either shape up, or don’t play. If he doesn’t play, then RK has the right of it. Someone may take a punt on him but it won’t be the big money move he wants, and he’ll forever be tainted with unprofessionalism.
I was speaking to Fowllyd and SO5 4BW this afternoon. We had Wanyama trouble when he signed. His agent was hawking him out to all and sundry, hoping a bigger club would swoop in with a huge contract. Reading between the lines, the same thing is happening here, just agitating for a move elsewhere.
Wanyama is in a poor position, I reckon. He has gambled on player power being the be all and end all. RK is drawing a line in the sand. I do not think he will go, and even if he ends up sulking and not playing with the first team, that could actually be a better long term benefit which doesn’t kill us in the short term. At some point, someone had to challenge the orthodoxy that we let these boys go on their merry the moment they say they want to. RK is doing that. It’s going to be fascinating to see who wins this game of chicken.
Yes, exactly. Well played, Ronald, well played. Your move, Victor.
I hope you didn’t mind the small thread title clarification.
Perfect. And turns out it wasn’t Spurs’ dirty tactics, it was Victor and his bloody agent! (Well, maybe a bit of both)… The whole thing is staggering.
Originally posted by @Coxford_lou
The whole thing is staggering.
Is it though? We have the same sort of thing each year now. Money talks and if we’re going to carry on hovering around this position where we are ‘kind of’ trying to push on, but on a budget, we’re always going to have players who will be at that level where they could push on somewhere else as well given a better offer.
Until Saints make that step up to the next level with respect to financial reward for players, players will move on when offered a load more cash. I’ve got a mate currently moaning on Facebook about Wanyama being a money grabbing c*nt, but I’d consider going to work for spurs for twice my current salary!!!
Originally posted by @Coxford_lou
Perfect. And turns out it wasn’t Spurs’ dirty tactics, it was Victor and his bloody agent! (Well, maybe a bit of both)… The whole thing is staggering.
I think it has probably gone down like this.
Vic’s agent reads a couple of articles about Southampton players being sold and thinks “ooh, I represent a Southampton player. Probably”. Pulls Vic’s file and sees that there are two years left, and realises that he is laughing all the way to the bank. We’re a selling club after all, right? The first space on the board in the “Super Lucrative English Premiership Agent Cunt” game for his valuable player token.
Using a bit of creative license there, but hey, so did the club, largely to protect Victor and give him another chance to get his head in gear. I don’t think he had a stomach bug last week, especially in light of Koeman’s comments yesterday. We were covering for the antics in the hope that he’d turn it around, and he really does need covering.
Koeman said in one of the pressers that the affair had damaged team spirit. Questions have already been asked about how this affected our European campaign. Personally, I am glad he was left out yesterday. The team looked as if it had just had a huge weight lifted from it.
Originally posted by @Spudders
Originally posted by @Coxford_lou
The whole thing is staggering.
Is it though?
For a situation to get to the point where the manager decides to drop a key player from the squad, and then openly discuss why on national TV - that is staggering.
I’m never going to be one for slagging off players for wanting big moves. But how players go about that is different. Wanyama has been arrogant here (or badly advised).
But Koeman has called him on it, and as a result he risks getting a ‘trouble’ reputation. I hope that’s enough to warn other players in the future to not follow a similar line. The Lallana situation certainly wouldn’t have done so as it happened behind closed doors, and ultimately the player won.