Ingeerland's Next Manager

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As soon as people wake up and realise that gestalt plays a huge part in football the cycle will endlessly repeat.

We saw it with Greece in the euros, we saw it with Korea in the world cup ,Iceland last night and Leicester in the PL. The team spirit and the willingness to play together for a common goal beats hastuly bodged together collection of individuals who are deemed good in their own right ( or maybe not)

This is why otehr teams look at Saints doing well, buy our players for obscene ammounts of money and then wonder why their teams are doing less well.

The whole is better than the sum of its individual parts.

England will continue to fail until we start to get the players playing regularly together and for eachother, rather than for a lucrative shampoo comercial.

As to what will actually happen - probably someone like Harry will get the job and pick a ton of Liverpool and Man U players and fuck me the cycle will persist ad nauseum.

Past caring , let it burn

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We talk about age but there are plenty of old men in the dug outs in the euros who are doing a great job. Anyone taking this job on will know that it is a poisoned chalice and as has been said, will also have to deal with the psychological problems that seem to follow the England squad into every major competition. This isn’t a recent problem, it has been going on for decades.

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we need a manager who isn’t scared of calling Rooney a spudfaced, useless tosser and dropping him. I’ll do it for a mere £50k a year.

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That’s true but for some it’s seen as a cosy well paid job where you don’t have to deliver results. If you can take the flack that always comes with it, it’s easy money.

By that token Fatso…you have the job. :lou_lol:

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The Italians are playing without a huge amount of pressure. In their home country this particular group of players was largely touted as a bunch of alsorans with no stand-out, world-class performer, incapable of winning the tournament. I think it’s helped them immensely to play without expectation.

Contrast that to the British media (and fans) - “Look at these young guns! Unbeaten in qualification! They should do well! If they don’t, we’ll flay them alive! This is the best chance we’ve had in ages to progress! Look how easy our group is!”

The media need to learn to SHUT THE FUCK UP and stop whipping the dimwitted supporters into a frenzy before every single tournament.

Anyway, as for the next manager, I expect it wil be Southgate, possibly Steve Bruce if the FA try to be ‘leftfield’ about it. I would love it to be MoPo because (a) it would really hurt Spurs and (b) he seems to have a knack for getting the best out of a bunch of youngsters who seemingly have average talent.

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Harry redknapp and Alan Brazil were touting Glenn hoddle on the radio this morning.

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I don’t care who they give it to provided they do two things

1 Choose a system and them pickplayers who complement the system, do not pick players and then try to shoehorn a system in around them

2 Pick players in form, who are playing regularly. Do not pick players who are recovering from injury, or had a good game three years ago.

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Here’s an idea - let’s hold a another referendum but this time to dismantle the FA and England team and rebuild it to be a world beating set up…on second thoughts…

:lou_facepalm_2:

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Let’s just put aside all those ideas of passion, hunger and wanting it more, we need to go back to basics…

Is a player technically sound?

Does he have a football brain?

Is he at peak fitness today?

Does our tactical approach suit him?

It wouldn’t matter a jot how much Raheem Sterling wants it if he is technically flawed and incapable of producing a cross.

I don’t mind how many goals Harry Kane has scored in the past if today, when I need him to perform, he doesn’t look fit enough to take a corner.

Wayne Rooney has been great for England but this is not a testimonial, he was not good enough to play up front, and he then proved he’s not good enough in another position.

We cannot start shoe-horning failing players into different roles, for fun.

I don’t want players who are up for it and can sing with passion, I want players who are good enough, and organised.

That is what the game is about - and it’s simple.

Football skills, physical and mental, brought together through fitness, organisation and tactical nous.

We have tried top foreign coaches and they couldn’t make it work, we have tried the passionate approach, and we have now tried the dull methodical way.

It has to be the players.

The occasional genius/supreme athlete papers over the cracks, but our league structure just doesn’t produce quality in quantity.

Let’s face it - not one of our players would get in the German or Italian team.

That’s where we are in world football.

So let’s forget passion and desire for the moment and firstly try to produce capable footballers.

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The first question asked of the new manager should be :-

  1. Will you pick Raheem Sterling in any squad?
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Have a thought for Guadiola

He is going to be returned a technically flawed £50m asset with shattered confidence - good luck with that one

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But Sterling has not been good since he left 'pool, he had, what, 1.5 good seasons at 'pool and was then thrown into the lions den, that is what destroyed his confidence.

He should have stayed at 'pool and not listened to his greedy agent!

He should not have been picked full stop!!

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@ BTripz

“…he should have stayed at 'pool and not listened to his greedy agent!..”

I think this is the problem. Agents are giving the players an unrealistic view of their abilities - & the clubs seem to think that if a player costs £20m then they must be good - the player then thinks if a club will pay £20m for me then I must be good - the agent trousers his 10% and starts work on fluffing up the players ego ready for the next move…a vicious circle that needs to be broken?

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I look at the Sky Bet list of new managers and I feel a little deflated. Not that I think for any second, that the issue has been the manager for 50 years, as there is a much more deeper issue than this from grass roots upwards. It would help though, if you pick the players on form not name and the club that they play for. There was a player playing in the Iceland team last night, who was playing or relegated Charlton last night, but the team where playing their 4 game in a row, with the same team. It is a team sport, you get to know where each other are playing and get better as the tournament goes on. You do not keep chopping and changing for the sake of it!

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Yep, I’m just waiting for Rashford to be destroyed by his agent…

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Shearer says he fancies it but hasn’t got a cats chance in hell. Given the time he has spent forensically dissecting England failures he could be your man to put thing right.

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Redknapp also touted Tim Sherwood so I think we know what he can do with his opinion. This is what it has come to, someone who hasn’t managed since an unsucessful spell at Wolves 10 years ago and two young managers who have either been or sent their clubs on the way to get relegated. It is supposed to be the national side, the best of everything the country has to offer and if any of those were touted as the next saints manager, I would think it was a wind up.

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Saggy chops moves into 2nd favourite! :lou_facepalm_2:

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i have read a few places people saying its at grassroots level…it isn’t its the FA and appointing the wrong man and leaving him there when he fails.

It wasn’t grassroots that put Sturridge right wing, picked the failed Sterling, picked the so out of form Kane, put on Wheelchair for Dier, gave Rashford 4 minutes and didn’t take different available options. I won’t mention taking Henderson…ooops

Townsend, Drinkwater and maybe Donkey Carrol should have gone.

Hodgson should have been sacked after Brazil.

Who to replace him…can we buy Jose out of his contract at Man Utd?

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Everytime I see this thread at the top of the front page I cringe! Could I humbly suggest that Phil adds an apostrophe to the thread title, somewhere between the ‘d’ and ‘s’ in Englands would be good!

Thanks

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