according to the London Times, the FA are taking active steps towards bringing retrospective bans in for players caught diving.
’The governing body is to send officials on a fact-finding mission to Scotland to study the rule there, which stipulates a two-match ban for any player who wins a significant advantage for their team by tricking the referee by diving or simulation, and will explore introducing a similar rule to the English game,’ the report reads.
The Scottish FA use video replays to identify anyone who used simulation and got away with it.
If the perpetrator is considered guilty, they are banned.
Simple as that.
There’s still no argument against issuing a red card for diving. It’s cheating - it’s as clear as that. If you don’t want to be sent off, don’t dive.
If you get away with it, you’ll be suspended anyway.
There should be no hiding place for cheats.
If I could vote myself up I would but I fear that the FA will fuck this up as only the FA can.
Long overdue, although clubs, managers and coaches could help by drumming it into players that diving is unacceptable.
Referees understanding what a dive is would be a good start.
I’ve seen players who have been chopped down, getting booked, while others who have fallen despite no contact have been left to carry on.
There needs to be a grasp of who initiated the contact as well.
A striker used to be able to get away with going past a keeper and putting their foot into him to earn a penalty.
Most refs have sussed that one - but I still see strikers kicking out and claiming because they have the ball that they have been fouled.
They still will not get it right.
What they need to do is review every major decision.
Penalties and offsides being the main ones as we already have goalline tech now. Only review offsides if the attack comes to something. You can review before a corner is taken, or if someone scores, it should be reviewed before the game kicks off again.
Every penalty decision should be reviewed and like cricket the team gets a certain amount of reviews. This might even stomp out cheating, because a player is not going to review if he has taken a dive!
Don’t you think that will slow the game down just a wee bit?
I can see all sorts of things wrong with reviewing offsides, do you review if the linesman flags offside when the player is in a perfectly good goal scoring situation or do you let them score and then review the (flagged) offside??
won’t we just end up with so few players that they could set up a 5-a-side Premiership?
Mind you it might make it more interesting.
Wasn’t that always Andy Gray’s arguemnt when new laws were brought in referee’s were encouraged to enforce them, I seem to remember quotes like “it’ll ruin the game” and “it’ll be 7 against 7 if they do this”.
Surely the players will learn and won’t do it if they keep getting bans and fines!
Actually, this is footballers we’re talking about so probably not.
Only review if leads to a goal or a corner, or even just a goal. While celebrating and getting back for kick off. American football review every touchdown. I know it is slower, but just saying. You can review quickly.
Thats my other new rule to speed up the game…
The side that concedes can take the kick-off 45 seconds after the goal has been scored.
If the scorers want to spend a minute going through their saddo baby-cradling or dance routines in the corner, they may find the opposition has equalised before they get back to the halfway line.
This is a very good point, as play can go on for quite a while. I think you you play on. It normally ends up in the goal, in the stand, or in the goalkeepers hands. You then review. Or if the flag goes up, you give offside, but if it turns out to be wrong, then the team get a free kick from were the offside was wrongly given.
The other way around is easy, you just continue, and unless it ends up in the net you do not review. How about if the flag does go up you carry on and it only gets reviewed if a goal is scored? So basically fuck the linesmen off and just used cameras? ha ha. Useless twats anyway!
The main worry about the diving, is that sometimes you cannot tell if it was a dive after looking at it serveral times. You can also fall over avoiding s tackle/foul. You can also be fouled and dive, just to make sure the referee notices. The reason a lot of players do this (badly) is that sometimes they are fouled and they go down normally or stay on their feet, but do not get the penalty.
It’s not that clear cut most of the time, but then there is Ashley Young!
A few of our players could get into bother with this. Tadic is not averse to throwing himself about a bit. I think Boufal might be the same.
I thought a game was abandoned if a team have more than 3 players sent off. If i am remembering it right, there are examples where a manager has told a player to deliberately get sent off so they can have an abandonment.
Anyone able to confirm or correct that?
5 from 1 side, on field players.
Originally posted by @Sfcsim
Originally posted by @Saint-or-sinner
Originally posted by @cobham-saint
won’t we just end up with so few players that they could set up a 5-a-side Premiership?
Mind you it might make it more interesting.
I thought a game was abandoned if a team have more than 3 players sent off. If i am remembering it right, there are examples where a manager has told a player to deliberately get sent off so they can have an abandonment.
Anyone able to confirm or correct that?
5 from 1 side, on field players.
5, wow that’s a lot. Cheers for the correction.
Not so funny when Saints players are celebrating a stoppage time ‘winner’ with the fans against the skates, for a minute!
A game on one of my bets had 3 players from the same team sent off. (The team I bet on), never seen more than that from one team, but has happened a fair bit.
Is it true we have signed Tom Daley for the academy to train the apprentices?
It was Warnock who had his players sent off and limp off to get an abandonment.
Sheffield United v West Brom.