France bombs Raqqa

I’m not too sure a kneejerk reaction is the way to go.

fksake. Bet Baby Jesus + Mohammed are both up in heaven, shaking fists. “Don’t make us come down there!”

Verbal shared this Twitter account on the other site once. It is fascinating, although be careful when looking at the photos, some are truly horrific. But as an insight into what life is like in Syria, it is very useful and interesting.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Raqqa_SL

Bloody hell. It’s feeling more and more like end times.

I’d rather not, I don’t see how indiscriminate bombings helps anything, this is simply a retaliatory air strike. Not measured in anyway.

How do you know its indiscriminate?

Because if it were genuine targets why didn’t they go after them a week ago?

Thats a timing issue, maybe reactionary yes, but does not mean its indiscriminate.

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According to the RBSS Twitter feed, the French did bomb raqqa a couple of weeks back.

Oct 9th French claim responsibility for Air raids over raqqa according to this tweet

BBC reports of French air strikes on 27th Sept

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Lets just see what and who they get from the bombing.

Ok but its something they have been doing for a while and not indiscriminate, per the reports tonight. Effective? Who knows.

They are saying that the French have bombed empty buildings, but then they would say that wouldnt they.

Sorry SoG, I missed this. Who is ‘they’?

Bombing rarely solves anything. Even the big ones dropped in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, cited as the reason for Japan’s immediate surrender, weren’t really responsible for VJ day. The Japan of the day had already been firebombed by carpet incendiary bombing. The Japanese, like almost everyone else on the planet, didn’t know how dangerous nukes actually were. To them, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not that much different from the firebombings that had destroyed most of their big cities. The eventual declaration of war by the Soviet Union ended all hope; the Japanese had hoped to use the Soviets to secure favourable peace terms.

Bomber Harris thought he could bomb the Germans into submission. He was wrong. After years of carpet bombing places with incendiaries, it was the Red Army on the ground that finally broke the Germans. Speaking of WW2, more ordnance was dropped on Vietnam than in the entirety of the Second World War. It didn’t work.

This is at best, the kneejerk reaction of a government that needs to be seen to be doing something. It won’t solve anything, because we’ve been trying this for fifteen years, and we’ve solved nowt.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Albert Einstein

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SWF

Thank you Pap.

Its simply a symbolic gesture by the French for the French, oldest trick in the book.

ISIS themselves. Sorry should have said.

bob Dylan predicted the rise of Isis on his Desire album. True story.

Very thoughtful piece over in the Guardian, which talks about the different responses to terrorist attacks, specifically comparing Paris with Mumbai, an event the author experienced up close.

When the gunfire ceased, many of us in Mumbai and throughout India felt the fear of terror replaced with another fear: that there would be war. We worried that there would once again be communal violence between Muslims and Hindus on the streets; we dreaded the thought that politicians would exploit the attacks to foment suspicion between people in our diverse country, in which people of different religious, language and ethnic groups all live together.

Then-Prime Minister Manhmohan Singh instead responded with admirable restraint. The attackers were all Pakistanis, who had trained in Pakistan and whose handlers were instructing them during the attack from the other side of the border. Yet, when the then prime minister addressed the grieving nation, he refused to order military strikes against that country.

Thanks to Singh’s restraint in the face of public grief and shock, war with Pakistan was avoided. It was for the best. Places of conflict and turmoil are breeding grounds for terrorist groups, and any Indian attack on Pakistan would have only increased the appeal of terrorism among some young men in the region.