Iām not used to worrying about goalkeepers - for a non ābigā club weāve pretty much always had a decent one. Shilton was one of the best ever (45 minutes every two weeks behind his goal was a master class - I could have played CB in front of him because he told you what to do! He was insulted if he actually had to make a save - but if he had to he did. He never ever shut up - you could always hear him)
Niemi, Flowers, Beasant, Jones, Davis - all very very good.
Burridge, Katalinic, Wells, Gennoe, Boruc - problems maybe but youād still feel confident that theyād make the save. Even Grobbelaar when not chucking them inā¦
This fella thoughā¦
His body language is just wrong - he doesnāt seem to talk at all. Good keepers moan at their defenders even when itās their fault! He never seems to say a word. Heās six foot lots but youād still never bet on him getting a cross. Everything seems to be parried rather than caught
Dont give a fuck what the board sayā¦ they will spinā¦ just be a realist and recognise we are where we are because the modern game means we cant realistic extpect more. We unearth a great manager and he gets poached (will be at Barca or Real one day), good players? they follow the money to. The only way a club of our size will do well is a perfect storm for one seasonā¦ (like Leicesterā¦ even us in 83/r84ā¦) talent that gells unexpectantlyā¦ then gets poachedā¦ relax or buy some more TENA
So when Iāve always said it youāve dismissed it, you must be a Jonny come lately mush, this is the Southampton way. Weāre the least successful largest club in the land, I accept it, I know what the board want, Liebherr sold at the right time and the Chinese will try to coast us on the cheap in the Premiership skimming off the TV money, the thing is I donāt mind that as long as the paying punter and fan is told that, the cunts wonāt though will they.
No we are not the least successful largest club. We are not a large club. Get that into your thick skull and you might start posting things worth reading.
I disagree(unlike Barry. How unbelievable is that?).
With the money now in the PL, arenāt all PL clubs in the top 50(financially)?
Forster has been shit for far too long. Had a blinding spell when he came back from injury, but now makes a good save once for every ten or twenty easy saves he fails to even move for, let alone save.
I will stand up for Fraser, but he was poor, very poor today, again after being away on England duty. The few weeks leading up to the international break he was looking much more solid and pulled off some great saves.
Disagree with the communication. Not sure what it is like now, but he was shit hot on positioning his defence, reading the game ahead of him. Perhaps he does not have the same confidence in his defence anymore, or perhaps for some reason he is not 100% switched on.
Whatever it is it needs addressing and sorting, or we need to drop him and give some other poor fucker a chance to be moaned at.
On todayās showing that should be diesel. Having watched the highlights, Iād now say he was very much at fault for both goals, the second in particular. For the first I think he had the initial shot covered OK and was then left stranded when the shot was blocked straight to Hayden, but he was horribly slow to get up. The second - oh dear.
Sorry Chutters but canāt agree on much of this. Whatās the point of supporting a club if youāre happy to simply accept your lot and settle for the realistic.
Forster gets paid a lot of money to do a job and for a long time now he canāt even get the basics right.
Iāve tried to be patient with him (mostly out of respect for @sfcsim thoughts on it) but the manās a liability and has cost us more points in the last year or so, than Sunderland totalled last season. Itās gone beyond being simply a bad patch. He canāt catch a ball, seems completely unaware of whatās going on around him and has the body language of a shell shocked casualty of war.
He canāt even hide behind the excuse that weāve got a shit defence. FFS Joe Hart and three kids are higher in the pecking order for that England shambles. Says it all.
From that F365 article posted on the Barcodes matchday thread
And then thereās Fraser Forster, who must surely rival Wayne Hennessey for the Premier League goalkeeper most out of form. Forster was only kept off the bottom of a list of regular goalkeepers sorted by save percentage by David Marshall and Claudio Bravo last season. This season that figure is far improved, but Forster is still making far too many errors in technique and decision-making. He was slow to get to his feet for Isaac Haydenās first goal, and parried away a shot before somehow making himself smaller for Ayoze Perezās. Neither Alex McCarthy nor Stuart Taylor constitute meaningful competition for places, and that might be part of the problem.