I havenāt watched the reports on TV this morningā¦I donāt want to either but itās going to be near impossible Iām afraid.
That residentās association blog looks like there will be a massive criminal investigation. Fuck manslaughterā¦it sounds like murder. Those responsible and all implicated in passing flawed and useless regulations should be publicly villifed and locked up for the rest of their lives.
" The Grenfell Action Group predict that it wonāt be long before the words of this blog come back to haunt the KCTMO management and we will do everything in our power to ensure that those in authority know how long and how appallingly our landlord has ignored their responsibility to ensure the heath and safety of their tenants and leaseholders. They canāt say that they havenāt been warned!"
This is very sad. Iāve lived in a high rise for a short while in the past and can only imagine how terrifying it must of been for the residents.
I shudder to think how many lives will be affected, not only by injury/death but by losing everything they own. 150 flats - 400 to 600 people ā¦ I really feel for them.
Cladding is fine as a concept. Itās what you make the cladding out of. Donāt know what they made this out of, but according to eyewitness reports, the fire got from the fourth floor to the top in 20 minutes.
The other factor may have been the āpolystyrene-likeā insulation material, coming off in chunks.
When you read the Glenfell action report, this really does look like a tragedy in slow motion. Thatās the thing I canāt get out of my head; the horror that these people must have experienced before the fires took them. It also appears that if concerns had been listened to, it could have been entirely avoided.
Blag cladding, race to the bottom, why are we doing up (loosely termed) these towers of deprivation anyway? People need houses, if people choose to live like that fine, but people shouldnāt be placed there.
Just got to Kos, so just catching up on this, but the cladding would probably be pretty fire resistant. However, what fixes it to the building? My bet is wooden battonsā¦
Multiple problems. The installation may have a part to play, but the cladding was flammable(pictures show it burning). Fixings should be stainless steel(canāt have sections falling). The main problem though is this.
Chartered surveyor and fire expert Arnold Tarling, from Hindwoods, said the process can createa 25-30mm cavity between the cladding and the insulation. āIt producesa windtunnel and also traps any burning material between the rain cladding and the building,"he said.
Anyone thatās used a bunsen burner will understand. Put them all together and you get a disaster . Iām struggling to understand how this was allowed. Aesthetics over safety?
BBC London news had a fire safety officer demonstrating how cladding / insulation burns - fucking quickly!
We donāt know the truth of the matter so canāt say what caused the building to burn like that, but my gut reaction is that those culpable will only get a slap on the wristsā¦as always.
The cladding is stainless steel or something that has a high temp tolerance, blag internal foam between the two (kingspan like foam?) will burn like fuck once going. Slightly different but gloss paint once going is another bastard.
A London firefighter today described the insides of the flats as ālike the third worldā. Speaks volumes.
Millions spent on doing them up, yet none of this money was spent on sprinkler systems, residents saying there were no fire alarms. Incredibly there was only one stairwell for the whole block. This is the 21st century FFS.
Also worrying is the race to build as many new tower blocks for sale between Waterloo and Clapham. Seems like the wild west. Hopefully after today someone will check and take responsibility for ensuring corners arenāt being cutā¦
We live in a new build block. Itās not a high rise and if we jumped from our 2nd floor weād break a few bits but hopefully survive? We donāt have cladding apart from possibly some bits on balconies. We do not have a fire exit only one door to the building which is near the stairs. If the fire is in the stairwell we are not sure how we would get out (apart from jumping). They could have put fire exits at each end of the building as there is space between flats. We havenāt noticed sprinklers either. Starts to make you think.