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No, it’s about the management of personal in formation, how it’s held and what it is used for - anyway a weekly update to those who don’t or rarely post is marketing isn’t it? So I guess there are two things to check 1) is the personal info held caught by GDPR and 2) do you need to ask everyone to opt in to receiving emails.

I’m no GDPR expert though.

GDPR

considering that we the users signed up for the “service” provided by the forum, then the forum can claim to have a legitimate business interest in processing your data including keeping you abreast of updates to the site / threads.

they will need a privacy policy though

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Great work belch. Obviously I can’t be arsed to read past the first line or so of each post but I am sure it is all fine.

When can we (the soviet) start charging fivers?

I take it the Soviet will be level 4 users in order to get the necessary powers. Bletch has implied that there will be an election process to get to L4.

I understand that pap is already in discussions with Cambridge Analyticia.

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Well, we had a long Soviet discussion about ways to develop the site and get more than 6 people posting per day. I suggested papxit, everyone agreed this would help retain posters but not get new ones. Bob wanted porn, bear 2nd it bit the welsh one insisted on sheep. As it is lambing season bletch got cold feet and said no porn at all. Bear flounced off for a month causing bletch to go rogue. He decided the best way to get more users is to implement a highly technical posting system then spend 10,000 words explaining it to us all.

I still thing a papxit porn combo would have been better.

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OK, I should have been a bit more specific, that point that your are asking about emails and that specific part of GDPR seems to only apply to marketing emails.

However you have to specifically ask userrs if they want to opt in to emails, you can’t just assume they have given consent just because they have signed up to your service.

Gone are the days when the opt-in checkbox is ticked by default, it has to be unticked and the person has to physically tick it.

Now don’t get me started on obfuscation of data in non-live systems.

As @dubai_phil has alluded to, GDPR is a license to print money for the EU. Oh and don’t forget it also applies to non-electronic data…

That’s a general phone and fat finger issue believe me. I could be considered a geek but I hate selecting text on my phone!!

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GDPR. I’ve known all about that stuff for about 3 years. Equally I’m totally aware how nobody is actually ready for it!

Even the EU Data teams are now indicating they may not fine everyone who is in breach as EU Industry would collapse. It affects anyone who has anything stored on an EU citizen (and a Brit post Brexit)

It is front and centre in my life at the moment as we work to release our change the world software and app shit globally. All our geeks were “meh we are too small” “it is for marketing emails”

Now they are all “we hate you Phil” “Why didn’t you mention this a year ago” (I did)

HOW MUCH?? for the Compliance Audit…

Basically Facebook would be dust by now IF it had been passed 25th May. As it is they will be battered and bleeding by the time Data Protection Act stuff has been filed against them.

In fact GDPR is what got me to the Semi! I need to engage EU lawyers (sales contracts) and so have to do that before we launch globally so needed to b e done this month so do it in Poland it is cheaper, then RyanAir in for the match.

Simples 56 quid return for a weekend of footie, Grandkids and Mum time.

Gotta love the EU

Back to the testing shit.

It is AWESOME. It is now SO easy to post Golf Pictures.

I do however have an ambulance chaser working on an RSI claim for overscrolling

There is ONE issue that the techies will need to resolve.

The automated emails (ie signing up stuff) is automatically interpreted as Spam by Yahoo Mail - may be the same on other platforms.

You can do some funky certifiable stuff to resolve that I think??

I mean who ever reads their Spam ?

Point of order Roy Chubby-Round, Bletch implied nothing of the sort.

As I’ve said, we’re just looking at this at the moment and no decision has been made.

BUT, I would envisage that the owners would be Admin level 4 users and that the Soviet (Am I really typing this knowing that @bearsy and @tokyo-saint are on the Soviet) would be ‘Normal’ users at level 4.

This would mean that for all structural and behind the scenes running of the site only the owners would be able to make changes but for general admin duties The Soviet would be able to do that - as well as other posters who had reached level 3 or above.

It actually begs the question of whether, in a Discourse world, you would hold elections to the Soviet or whether you would instead let the community create Soviets by just promoting them to level 4.

So, two issues here.

At the moment emails are coming from a testing domain (@sotonians.zeitgeistmarys.com) and as no email systems worldwide have ever seen email from that domain, the email whitelist/blacklist heuristics will put it in Spam by default for many email providers.

As more and more people move their email from SPAM to Inbox, so the whitelist heuristics will start to identify it as harmless.

However, IF we were to move to Discourse, then the emails would come from @sotonians.com and that would almost certainly go straight to Inbox.

If they didn’t, then I would imagine* that you can tell yahoo email** to treat @sotonians as non-spam.

*guessing

**who uses yahoo.com for their email nowadays - it’s the tech equivalent of writing with a quill.

There is a discussion on Discourse and GDPR here…

Here’s the OP…

GDPR that will be effective in EU by 28/5/2018 requires more careful handling of personal data. As I’ve analyzed needed changes in our software I’ve found following:

We need explicit consent by user to gather personal data (username, ip addresses) - I think that registration in forum can be taken as explicit consent

We need to handle them any personal data per request, so is there any convenient way to export the data we are collecting about the user? I mean are there any data not currently visible to the user in his profile? I can only think of IP addresses.

We need to delete the data per request - this could be easilly done be removing all post, removing user or anonymizing user.

Are you EU providers preparing for this new policy somehow?

Level 4 mother fuckers, you read it here first. I made it to curry night!

You do realise that The Soviet position is renewed annually, don’t you?

…and that IF we move to Discourse, we’ll be sure to do it 366 days after the last Soviet elections.

Woo hoo! another win

It is actually possible to copy text on the new supersite

And appoint your Data Processor and Data Controller.
You will actually have the same rabbit hole that I am falling down.
We have an SaaS solution. It links lots of tech including Mobile & Communications. Our IP does funky shit on the cloud.
We sell that SaaS to companies that then interact with their clients.
Exactly like Sotonians - you have “us” and our stuff is then stored by you on someone else’s servers.
Soooooooooo
I need an army of legal beagles to write the correct contracts - as technically would you.
IF your cloud provider is compromised and data is abused, your asses have to be covered legally and vice versa.
Which is why I am meeting experts next week to begining to make sense of how much that will all cost
And next trick is to see if copy and paste now works from here easily

  1. Work email is gmail

  2. Android email is gmail

Work things need Android Apps and demos on my phone. Most are white label test ones. Work accounts are fatal because you can get fired and lose everything yet I do not need "Event Apps. So that is massively messy. gmail is WAY more easy and susceptible to Spam than anything else I use, plus you get all those farking emails about looking at octo-porn on You Tube or whatever and it STILL gets shit from Google + (how is that still going?)

  1. Work things I don’t want work to know about is windowslive and important stuff like all my Ryder Cup training and security things

  2. 15 years of personal shit is on yahoo and no way I am exporting all of them anywhere

#dinosaursarestilluseful

Obviously any important things and proper emails are encrypted and buried in the dark web account that my (sadly deceased) Security Guru set up for me when we hacked the NSA and had to leaave town in a hurry

:lou_eyes_to_sky:

maybe

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Not like pap&bletch inc to make up the rules as you go along. Anyway, everyone knows it takes you fuckers 6 months to count the votes and another couple of months to decide if a trip to a random pub in Totton is required or not. By that time I will be level 4rd out of my tits on tikka masala.

We can always look back to the great original soviet though. Like when we erm… err… changed the rules so it was like a suggestion box. The golden days of papsweb.

Oh shut the fuck up you needy cunt*.

Deal with the fact you’ve been weaned and are in the real world where mum can’t save you from the paps and then bletches of the world .

Grow a pair you scothc twat.

*Love you like a brother/son.

x

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