Guinea Pigs Required

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saintbletch posted this 09 April 2018

Originally posted by Bucks

Will it automatically block hugely biased political threads?   Will it encourage more footie chat?   

It would respond to downvotes quickly and brutally (if so configured).

This would stop posters contributing content that is out of line with what the community wants.

It would also lock threads if there was a lot of negativity flowing in a given thread.

I'd like to think the social media stuff that I have in mind would also bring more footy chat.

I've also contacted an open data service that supplies Opta-like football stats to see if could build an interactive match-day thread.

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saintbletch posted this 09 April 2018

Originally posted by Saint or sinner

Does it work ok on mobiles?

Should'nt you give it to us techotards first, as we will naturally take longer to get up to speed.

Remember we've made no decision about this. 

If you want a login, PM me your email address and I'll set one up for you.

As with most modern software the software degrades gracefully (it's called being responsive) to use all of the available space - and hides stuff that can't be shown at lower resolutions.

 

 

 

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Cobham Saint posted this 09 April 2018

What about shitty £50 Microsoft phones, will it work on them too?

Otherwise I like what you have to say about Discourse @Beltch

Still haven't watched any of the clips apart from Pap's high vote clip - that made me chuckle.

As SoS meant to say, let us Technotards see if we can break it for you...

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Cobham Saint posted this 09 April 2018

Quick, serious question. You mentioned about emailing updates to make the site more sticky Bletch.

With GDPR will you not need to ask everyone to opt in to receiving them?

BTripz posted this 09 April 2018

Originally posted by Cobham Saint

Quick, serious question. You mentioned about emailing updates to make the site more sticky Bletch.

With GDPR will you not need to ask everyone to opt in to receiving them?

 I believe you don't get email updates unless you ask for them.

And doesn't GDPR only apply to marketing emails?

BTripz posted this 09 April 2018

Originally posted by Cobham Saint

What about shitty £50 Microsoft phones, will it work on them too?

Otherwise I like what you have to say about Discourse @Beltch

Still haven't watched any of the clips apart from Pap's high vote clip - that made me chuckle.

As SoS meant to say, let us Technotards see if we can break it for you...

 So? Is that an official volunteer from @Cobham Saint and @Saint or sinner?

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Saint or sinner posted this 09 April 2018

Originally posted by BTripz

Originally posted by Cobham Saint

What about shitty £50 Microsoft phones, will it work on them too?

Otherwise I like what you have to say about Discourse @Beltch

Still haven't watched any of the clips apart from Pap's high vote clip - that made me chuckle.

As SoS meant to say, let us Technotards see if we can break it for you...

 So? Is that an official volunteer from @Cobham Saint and @Saint or sinner?

 I have pm'd my email, so tomorrow could be confusing for me.

 

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BTripz posted this 09 April 2018

Originally posted by Saint or sinner

 I have pm'd my email, so tomorrow could be confusing for me.

 

 It's only a trial but we're here to help lou_lol

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saintbletch posted this 09 April 2018

More information on the trust levels in Discourse can be found here. As you'll see there is a bit of science behind the concept.

User trust levels are a way of…

  • Sandboxing new users in your community so that they cannot accidentally (or intentionally!) hurt themselves, the forum, or other users while they are learning what to do.

  • Granting experienced users more rights so that they can help maintain and moderate the community they generously contribute so much of their time to.

As documented in Community Building on the Web 1.0k, there is a progression from…

Visitor → Novice → Regular → Leader → Elder

These five levels seemed like a great starting point for our user trust system, though we changed a few names to make the levels more clear.

Thus, Discourse offers five user trust levels, and your current level is visible on your user page:

0 (New) → 1 (Basic) → 2 (Member) → 3 (Regular) → 4 (Leader)

(Yes, we intend for you to be able to rename the levels, though this is not quite supported yet. If you gotta have level 4 be Ninja and level 3 be Pirate, so be it!)

 

 

New (0)

Discourse does not quite trust new users yet, as they are visitors who just created an account, still learning the community norms and the way your forum works. Whether accidentally, or intentionally, new users can cause problems in your community.

We also want to hide any so-called “advanced” functionality from new users to make the UI less confusing for them and gently land them on the deeper UI as they get more experienced.

Thus, new users’ abilities are restricted for safety – both theirs and yours.

 

Users at trust level 0 cannot

  • Send private messages to other users
  • “Reply as new topic” via Link button (UI removed)
  • Flag posts
  • Post more than 1 image
  • Post any attachments
  • Post more than 2 hyperlinks in a post
  • Have actual links in the ‘about me’ field of their profile (will be silently and temporarily converted to plain text)
  • Mention more than 2 users in a post

Admins can change these limitations in…

  • newuser_max_mentions_per_post
  • newuser_max_links
  • newuser_max_images
  • newuser_max_attachments

 

Basic (1)

If a user sticks around long enough to read a bit, Discourse now trusts them as a basic user.

They can get to trust level 1 by…

  • entering at least 5 topics
  • reading at least 30 posts
  • spend a total of 10 minutes reading posts

Admins can change these thresholds in…

  • basic_requires_topic_entered
  • basic_requires_read_posts
  • basic_requires_time_spent_mins

Users at trust level 1 can

  • use all core Discourse functions

    • Upload images and attachments if enabled
    • Edit wiki posts
    • Flag posts
  • have all new user restrictions removed

 

Members (2)

Members keep coming back to the site, and have participated long enough to earn complete citizenship.

They can get to trust level 2 by…

  • visiting at least 15 days, not sequentially
  • casting at least 1 like
  • receiving at least 1 like
  • replying to at least 3 different topics
  • entering at least 20 topics
  • reading at least 100 posts
  • spend a total of 60 minutes reading posts

Admins can change these thresholds in…

  • regular_requires_topics_entered
  • regular_requires_read_posts
  • regular_requires_time_spent_mins
  • regular_requires_days_visited
  • regular_requires_likes_received
  • regular_requires_likes_given
  • regular_requires_topic_reply_count

Users at trust level 2 can

  • Use the “Invite others to this topic” button for one-click onboarding of new users to participate in topics
  • Invite outside users to PMs making a group PM
  • Daily like limit increased by 1.5 ×

 

 

Dubai_Phil posted this 10 April 2018

Originally posted by BTripz

Originally posted by Cobham Saint

Quick, serious question. You mentioned about emailing updates to make the site more sticky Bletch.

With GDPR will you not need to ask everyone to opt in to receiving them?

 I believe you don't get email updates unless you ask for them.

And doesn't GDPR only apply to marketing emails?

 lou_facepalm2

Still bloody much on impossible for non geeks to select txt to highlight on a phone though.

GDPR and marketing tell ya what just send all your assets to the EU now and save legal fees

Cobham Saint posted this 10 April 2018

Originally posted by BTripz

Originally posted by Cobham Saint

Quick, serious question. You mentioned about emailing updates to make the site more sticky Bletch.

With GDPR will you not need to ask everyone to opt in to receiving them?

 I believe you don't get email updates unless you ask for them.

And doesn't GDPR only apply to marketing emails?

 No, it's about the management of personal in formation, how it's held and what it is used for - anyway a weekly update to those who don't or rarely post is marketing isn't it? So I guess there are two things to check 1) is the personal info held caught by GDPR and 2) do you need to ask everyone to opt in to receiving emails.

I'm no GDPR expert though.

CB Saint posted this 10 April 2018

GDPR

considering that we the users signed up for the “service” provided by the forum, then the forum can claim to have a legitimate business interest in processing your data including keeping you abreast of updates to the site / threads.

they will need a privacy policy though

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Tokyo-Saint posted this 10 April 2018

Great work belch. Obviously I can't be arsed to read past the first line or so of each post but I am sure it is all fine. 

 

When can we (the soviet) start charging fivers?

Fatso posted this 10 April 2018

Originally posted by Tokyo-Saint

Great work belch. Obviously I can't be arsed to read past the first line or so of each post but I am sure it is all fine. 

 

When can we (the soviet) start charging fivers?

 I take it the Soviet will be level 4 users in order to get the necessary powers.  Bletch has implied that there will be an election process to get to L4.

I understand that pap is already in discussions with Cambridge Analyticia.

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Tokyo-Saint posted this 10 April 2018

Well, we had a long Soviet discussion about ways to develop the site and get more than 6 people posting per day. I suggested papxit, everyone agreed this would help retain posters but not get new ones. Bob wanted porn, bear 2nd it bit the welsh one insisted on sheep. As it is lambing season bletch got cold feet and said no porn at all. Bear flounced off for a month causing bletch to go rogue. He decided the best way to get more users is to implement a highly technical posting system then spend 10,000 words explaining it to us all. 

 

I still thing a papxit porn combo would have been better. 

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BTripz posted this 10 April 2018

Originally posted by Cobham Saint

 No, it's about the management of personal in formation, how it's held and what it is used for - anyway a weekly update to those who don't or rarely post is marketing isn't it? So I guess there are two things to check 1) is the personal info held caught by GDPR and 2) do you need to ask everyone to opt in to receiving emails.

I'm no GDPR expert though.

OK, I should have been a bit more specific, that point that your are asking about emails and that specific part of GDPR seems to only apply to marketing emails.

However you have to specifically ask userrs if they want to opt in to emails, you can't just assume they have given consent just because they have signed up to your service.

Gone are the days when the opt-in checkbox is ticked by default, it has to be unticked and the person has to physically tick it.

Now don't get me started on obfuscation of data in non-live systems.

As @Dubai_Phil has alluded to, GDPR is a license to print money for the EU. Oh and don't forget it also applies to non-electronic data..

BTripz posted this 10 April 2018

Originally posted by Dubai_Phil

 lou_facepalm2

Still bloody much on impossible for non geeks to select txt to highlight on a phone though.

GDPR and marketing tell ya what just send all your assets to the EU now and save legal fees

That's a general phone and fat finger issue believe me. I could be considered a geek but I hate selecting text on my phone!!

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Dubai_Phil posted this 10 April 2018

GDPR. I've known all about that stuff for about 3 years. Equally I'm totally aware how nobody is actually ready for it!

Even the EU Data teams are now indicating they may not fine everyone who is in breach as EU Industry would collapse. It affects anyone who has anything stored on an EU citizen (and a Brit post Brexit)

It is front and centre in my life at the moment as we work to release our change the world software and app shit globally. All our geeks were "meh we are too small" "it is for marketing emails"

Now they are all "we hate you Phil" "Why didn't you mention this a year ago" (I did)

HOW MUCH?? for the Compliance Audit..

Basically Facebook would be dust by now IF it had been passed 25th May. As it is they will be battered and bleeding by the time Data Protection Act stuff has been filed against them.

In fact GDPR is what got me to the Semi! I need to engage EU lawyers (sales contracts) and so have to do that before we launch globally so needed to b e done this month so do it in Poland it is cheaper, then RyanAir in for the match.

Simples 56 quid return for a weekend of footie, Grandkids and Mum time.

Gotta love the EU

Dubai_Phil posted this 10 April 2018

Back to the testing shit.

It is AWESOME. It is now SO easy to post Golf Pictures.

I do however have an ambulance chaser working on an RSI claim for overscrolling

Dubai_Phil posted this 10 April 2018

There is ONE issue that the techies will need to resolve.

The automated emails (ie signing up stuff) is automatically interpreted as Spam by Yahoo Mail - may be the same on other platforms.

You can do some funky certifiable stuff to resolve that I think??

I mean who ever reads their Spam ?