Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Do the current politicians represent their constituents views f or do they continuously the party line , if so is that democratic? Are we as a society always looking for ways not to pay tax, dodge bills and have the same dubious morals of some the people we elected?
Can’t even be bothered with the punctuation Bazza but thought I’d make a start on the grammar/typos for you.
The government defiantly do not speak for me and my beliefs. There is a very wide gap. I am ver liberal with ‘old’ labour values… The Tories are on a different planet!
No neither is the answer to your question. Society thinks overall that things are getting better, unemployment, the economy… But the stats are just manipulated to suit those in power.
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The government is there for the establishment. Individual MPs have traditionally had a straight choice; follow your conscience or follow the whip. One will keep you a backbencher in perpuity. Ministerial jobs beckon for those who play ball.
When the majority of government is full of very obviously ambitious politicians, it’s not very democratic at all, in my book.
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On the gin again, it must be Saturday night!
Cheers love.
So some on here think they are not representative of the electorate, does democracy work then or is it a mirage, an illusion, a cheap card trick?
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
So some on here think they are not representative of the electorate, does democracy work then or is it a mirage, an illusion, a cheap card trick?
The current set up does not work. It should be done on over voted, not seats.
Proportional representation? I’m all for that but the big two aren’t I wonder why? We employ it for the Europeans elections.
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I think this should be the way forward and real democracy.
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Do the current politicians represent their constituents views for do they continuously toe the party line, if so is that democratic? Are we as a society always looking for ways not to pay tax, dodge bills and have the same dubious morals of some of the people we elected?
I could have been a politician could you please explain some of the dubious morals so I know which ones to enhance.
On another note the politicians do not represent the electorate, as most are under the whip to the two major parties and if you ever got proportional representation implemented we would end up with a state of affairs like Italy where the average length of a party in power is 1 year with no effective mandate to run the country.
The problem with Italy is the mopeds/scooters.
Or Germany?
I think I said that with toeing the Party line, free votes are given though and mp’s do rebel.
Italy’s successive waves of ousting and electing new mp’s has a lot more to do it than the electoral system , it can make for weak Government but weren’t we always told first past the post elects strong consistent Governments and yet the last one was a coalition?
The morals I question of a politician are self interest, vanity, power hungry and self serving attitudes.
We all technically could have been a politician, it just depends on how slippery you want to be, local party politics is a bun fight as well.
And you could argue over time FPTP merges parties and therefore closes down debate and ideas, most FPTP Countries only really have two main parties, is that good for engagement and interest in politics?