LOL at all you losers with no bunker.
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I know what you mean, and it does sound good. It took me 2 hours to drive 5 miles across Birmingham this morning. House prices. Getting tickets for Justin Bieber. But my question is this: do we really need to wait 50 years? Why should our children reap all the benefits?
Is there no way you can get it going sooner? Maybe not the whole 80%, but at least like half. Think about it! Draw up some Lists.
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Don’t worry, millions upon millions will die as we head towards the grand finale(you’ll have a ringside seat for that and it’ll be free). It won’t take 50 years either, so rest easy, you’ll have your fun(for a little while at least).
Africa and the middle east will get it first(death, not a solution). The OIC have already done some of the homework.
Official documents confirm that governments across the Muslim world privately recognise that climate change is a threat of “unimaginable proportions”, already compounding problems of land, food, water and energy scarcity.
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We’ll be alright. We’re a v.resourceful species. It’ll be like before the first world war, when everyone was hungry, and then that Jewish bro figured out how to turn air into potatoes. I mean, it won’t all be gravy, cos he then invented how to turn Tommies into corpses using swimming pool gas, but you can’t make omelettes without putting fire under the frying pan.
I only mention cos I listened to documentary bout him few weeks ago. It was quite interest. His wife was v.angry with him cos he kept gassing people, so she shot herself. He just shrugged shoulders and went back to work. Bad ass! I wonder what his name was.
Anyway, I know how it will go. Someone will invent how to turn plastic bottles into bumblebees, and we’ll wonder what all the fuss was about.
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Nice idea Bear, but it won’t happen. We have always been on this path(you might just be lucky enough to get to see our biggest accomplishment as a species).
Homo sapiens has existed for 100,000 generations, give or take. Those countless generations have had one overriding factor, that of homicidal intent, driven by the genetic force of survival. That drive has brought us to where we are now, which is fucking hilarious when you think about it. We have never been any more than a very nasty parasite on the planet.
That said, it would be nice to at least win another cup before we go. It would give it all rather more meaning.
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Jeez I hope you’re wrong Bearsy. I’ve just thrown my life savings into a North African Pedalo Francise.
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Think you’ll find it’s round (almost) and the sun and outer space are equally responsible … and probably the Klingons too
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Potatoes can be made into weapons.
Your neighbour is food.
Trust me.
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You had a Spud gun as well then Goaty?
We’ll be fine down here. We’re getting Solar Power so can just pump more into desalination plants and dig through the mountains of plastic water bottles for scraps while wearing asbestos suits.
But seriously being a grandparent it’s something I’m even more aware of. Being cynical our entire global system is capitalist and only concerned with growth so more gets made every year.
You lot are so hypocritical though. You have green iniatiives and tell everyone else how to behave yet buy shit that lasts 2 weeks from Primark and electronics you dump every 18 months. Yet when a factory opens in Nepal who double the local village income to $1 a day while dumping left over toxic dyes into the eco system you moan at them.
What you do in “The West” isn’t even pissing in the wind as populations in Asia & Africa try and grab some trickle down wealth and belch pollutants or destroy forests to give you cheaper food or poison the seas with antibiotics so you can eat cheap fish.
The mass of the population of the world live in poverty but aspire to equality. That means development that means acceleration of poisoning the planet despite bullshit from politicos playing the audience to keep their jobs.
I fear for my Grandson. Not my kids. It is coming faster than you imagine. This summer most people here lost plants that had survived - for me 20 years. They burnt to death in the hottest and longest summer I can remember. Ain’t going to get better in our lifetimes and tbh “emerging nations” deserve the chance to improve the lives of their people.
OR you could start paying fair market prices for limited resources and quality that lasts not Primark. Ban tech companies from releasing anything new for 3 year cycles and make it illegal to factory farm food
See you won’t so we’re fvcked
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You buck passing fkr. How in the flying fk do you exclude yourself from blame. That reads like Barry gone eco. 
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Lol IF Capitalism would give a job to a 50+ in Europe where I didn’t need to go on benefits to eat (not that I woulud qualify for any) THEN I’d be back being green.
Meanwhile I’m down here burning twice your fossil fuel a week to try not to sweat to death in this damn sauna. 
Did a lot of work setting up the 1st recycing company down here some 10 years back and regularly cited the UN stats about consumption etc. 
There HAS been progress at Government level, finally banning light bulbs and starting legislation on recycling but it doesn’t happen over night. The maassive Solar Farm down the road is close to coming on stream, Nuclear is well under construction and a second Solar Farm is planned (biggest in the world).
Difference is down here?
We don’t have Primark 
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He says, tapping away on his laptop to book plane tickets to go and see a group of men kick a ball about for a couple of hours…
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Funnily enough…
Then it got moved to a bloody Sunday so I miss out again
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Good news 
The methodology widely used to understand sea temperatures in the scientific community may be based on a mistake, the new study suggests, and so our understanding of climate change might be fundamentally flawed.
Not so good news 
The new research suggests that the oceans hundreds of millions of years ago were much cooler than we thought. If true, that means that the global warming we are currently undergoing is unparallelled within the last 100 million years, and far worse than we had previously calculated.
This is why the BBC is the greatest broadcast institution.
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End of Days?
Octopuses walking along a beach?
Here is a decent explanation of why we can’t help but destroy ourselves(and the least depressing of Norman Pagetts writings(you will struggle to believe that if you read it)).
Our current rate of growth is 1.11%, a seemingly insignificant figure; but that will double our numbers in 63 years. As it is, we are set to increase to 9 or 10 billion by mid century. Maybe more. The mothers of those extra billions are alive now, with the instinct to procreate driven by the genetic forces that our ancestors had. The elderly will also insist on staying alive as long as possible.
The world is already carrying an (oil fuelled) excess of maybe 5 billion, and can’t support 2 or 3 billion more. Which means that billions of people living and billions yet unborn do not have a future.
There can be no airy dismissal of the problem, that it will be solved by future generations. We are that generation; we will be witness to the events of the next 20 or 30 years. We cannot know for certain what that catastrophe is to be, but it will happen.
250 years of hydrocarbon fuelburning has brought us what appears to be a new era, that of luxury and plenty and bright light. But viewed in the wider timeframe of human history the last two centuries might be seen instead as the supernova of humanity — a brief flash of light in the million years of darkness that had been our normality till around 1750.
That light has been our hydrocarbon resource exploding all at once, and probably taking us with it.
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Bearsy, how can you selfishly bring a baby into this? 
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