Is the planet Earth doomed?

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BTripz posted this 21 November 2017

Oh I'm doing as much as I can @Private Frazer but we do really need buy in from the whole of society for this to work.

But I think we're fucked anyway, Gaia is bored of us and wants to get rid.

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Dubai_Phil posted this 21 November 2017

Originally posted by BTripz

Oh I'm doing as much as I can @Private Frazer but we do really need buy in from the whole of society for this to work.

But I think we're fucked anyway, Gaia is bored of us and wants to get rid.

 Perhaps Gaia is a Saints fan and sees this as the only way to get rid of MP/ Reed/ Black(delete as appropriate)

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Dubai_Phil posted this 22 November 2017

This.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/22/black-friday-consumption-killing-planet-growth

Those who worry most and try and recycle/manage their carbon credits actually create MORE harm than the remaining 99% (well that is the jist of it)

Saint or sinner posted this 22 November 2017

Almost posted that on your black Friday thread Phil. It's a good article and as you have pointed out, raises the ugly issue of who's to blame.

 1 million plastic bottles a minute stood out.

Dubai_Phil posted this 22 November 2017

Originally posted by Saint or sinner

Almost posted that on your black Friday thread Phil. It's a good article and as you have pointed out, raises the ugly issue of who's to blame.

 1 million plastic bottles a minute stood out.

 Yeah. I lived the "Corporate Dream" for quite some time.

Over here that wasn't so difficlut - finding growth every year - was as much about education and delivery channels for us compared with the developed markets.

But even then when walking through Naif Bazaar here and seeing basically shop after shop selling shit that you wouldn't get 10 p for at a car boot sale made me wonder.

Around the same time I became "content" look I have nothing these days and need to find a way to build a home to retire to and some money to pay for it, but I never needed the latest gizmo. Christ my car is over 210,000 kms already and at least 10 years old.

But I simply wondered what the hell do you do in life when you dont NEED to go buy something in the Mall? Sure I hae picked up some $1.50 Tee Shirts or work chinos in sales and my telly blew up, but just what IS the point of Capitalism when you have everything you need?

Yet the machine keeps churning you on. Politicans MUST have growth (and Inflation) the whole system of Public Debt demands it.

Consumerism, Capitalilsm are out of control. So much waste upgrading your Apple Phones every 18 months yet at the bottom of the scale so much waste for a labourer who buys a $1 doll for his kid that lasts a week. (And there are 100's of millions of those for every Apple upgrader.

Planet will only start to stabilise when Gene Roddenberry's system is implemented lou_eyesskylou_sunnies

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Dubai_Phil posted this 22 November 2017

Irony.

Climate change = less Arctic Ice = Easier to Drill for more Oil and Natural Gas.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20171121-why-russia-is-sending-robotic-submarines-to-the-arctic

And Russia is miles ahead of everyone else in that game

Cobham Saint posted this 22 November 2017

"Climate change = less Arctic Ice = Easier to Drill for more Oil and Natural Gas"

True, but on the positive side more fuel to make the electricity to power more air-conditioning units

 

Saint or sinner posted this 22 November 2017

Originally posted by Cobham Saint

"Climate change = less Arctic Ice = Easier to Drill for more Oil and Natural Gas"

True, but on the positive side more fuel to make the electricity to power more air-conditioning units

 

 Back at the beginning of this thread, i said it would be some innocuous event that signals our impending demise(or words to that effect).

 Well done @Dubai_Philyou might have found it.

 More ice melts, sea levels rise, the once perma frozen tundra releases all the trapped methane, all whilst the US and Russia(+respective allies) burn evermore hydrocarbons in the fight to control the resources of the area, which in turn heats up the area they are fighting over and so pushes the temperature/air quality past critical and we all die*.

 A positive for @Cobham SaintBillions die, but the cost of heating** goes down, as the customer base has vanished.

* @BTripzhas someone already written a book covering that scenario?

**All the places that use ac will have perished years before.

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Cobham Saint posted this 22 November 2017 - Last edited 22 November 2017

Note to self: Don't invite  @Mr Chuckles round for an evening of light hearted banter and conversation

  lou_wink2

 

 

 

Fatso posted this 22 November 2017

Originally posted by Cobham Saint

Note to self: Don't invite  @Mr Chuckles round for an evening of light hearted banter and conversation

  lou_wink2

 

 

 

 A little harsh. Invite him round but make sure the central heating is off and all light bulbs are energy saving. Oh, and sacrifice your young and dependents. 

Saint or sinner posted this 22 November 2017

I could do something like this @Cobham Saint

But i still think you're all living in happy valley(especially@Fatso) .

 

Saint or sinner posted this 23 November 2017

Originally posted by Cobham Saint

Note to self: Don't invite  @Mr Chuckles round for an evening of light hearted banter and conversation

  lou_wink2

 

 

 

 Look what's in the papers today. The build up has been going on for some time now.

“The ability of our economy to increase military production and services at a given time is one of the most important aspects of military security,” Mr Putin said. “To this end, all strategic, and simply large-scale enterprise should be ready, regardless of ownership.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-russia-business-war-production-sochi-military-talks-a8069951.html

Areola Grandee posted this 23 November 2017 - Last edited 23 November 2017

Originally posted by CB Saint

Originally posted by Goatboy

Isn't this a good thing? More flooding, more disease, less people?

Maybe throw in an anti biotic resistant super bug and a meteor strike.

Happy days!

 The bad news is that we will have to move to Scotland. 

 Looking forward to my backwater village cheap old property being the new 'central London mansion' in terms of ££££ lou_lol


Saint or sinner posted this 10 December 2017

So it would appear that plastic microfibers are now in everything, even our drinking water and they never degrade.

https://orbmedia.org/stories/Invisibles_plastics