Is this site morphing?

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BTripz posted this 23 June 2017 - Last edited 23 June 2017

Originally posted by cellone

I did. saintrichmond is back so I left before I felt the urge to insult him.

Oh dear, he is amongst the very few posters that really used to annoy me, every single one of his posts deserves a lou_facepalm2

Goatboy posted this 23 June 2017 - Last edited 23 June 2017

It's a shame that there is a swear filter over there when there are so many total cunt nuggets who could do with having a few fucks fired into them.

Tokyo-Saint posted this 23 June 2017

Come on Gboy, you telling me you can't crack the saints web swear filter? - 5 rep points. 

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BTripz posted this 23 June 2017

Easiest thing to do that is @Goatboy, just highlight one of the letters and change the font, seemples.

I think I would call everyone a cockwomble now!!

Tokyo-Saint posted this 23 June 2017

lou_facepalm2 Magicians never give away their secrets Bob! 

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BTripz posted this 23 June 2017

Originally posted by Tokyo-Saint

lou_facepalm2 Magicians never give away their secrets Bob! 

 Oh shit, sorry @Tokyo-Saint

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Goatboy posted this 23 June 2017

Rules is rules.

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gavstar posted this 23 June 2017 - Last edited 23 June 2017

Originally posted by MrTrampoline

"I didnt think that you were bothered about pissing people off?"

Oh I should like to get on with everyone like a house on fire if I could. Who wouldn't want to be agreeable and get on with people and whatnot?

I remember my first appearance here was about a year ago when I said I'd voted to leave the European Union as tighter controls on immigration would result in wage increases for the lowest paid workers in society, as described by Professor Ha-Joon Chang of Cambridge and admitted by former Marks and Spencer chief executive Lord Rose who was a prominent figure in the Remain campaign.

I tried to be as polite and civilised as I could, explaining that it simply wasn't in my interest to vote to Remain and that whilst one might make the argument that I ought to vote unselfishly, should the burden of sacrifice really fall on the lowest-paid members of society who are struggling the most? After all, isn't the whole idea of left-wing politics to support those at the bottom of the ladder?

But no. All of a sudden, a board full of peace-and-love lefties who suddenly, in an instant, performed a complete 180 and transformed into the most ruthless stereotype of Thatcherite libertarians that they supposedly stand in total opposition to; more-or-less saying that the poor deserve to be poor and that any low=paid worker failing to vote for more competition, less workers' rights and lower pay and so on thoroughly deserved to be right down in the shit where they belong. Predictable memes were wheeled out saying that if someone from another country could do your job without speaking the language maybe you're just shit; literally "fuck the poor they deserve what they get". 

After pointing out that kind of naked hypocrisy, I was never going to be popular.

 There's your first mistake Tramps, you entered the political threads too soon, think I left it at least 8 months before I got involved in that shitstorm.  Remember my first offering on this forum being a video (incorrectly linked of course) of (**SPOILERS**) an old lady getting twatted in the face by a ping pong ball and everyone loved me straight away lou_wink2

Here it is again for anyone who missed it first time around lou_lol

cellone posted this 23 June 2017

Originally posted by Goatboy

It's a shame that there is a swear filter over there when there are so many total cunt nuggets who could do with having a few fucks fired into them.

 And yet Heisenberg say that I use the word cunt quite often. Think the poor blokes been banned and yet Trolls like Always continue to riddle threads with his Les licking posts or insulting peeps for having an opinion. Most irratating cunt since scoobie the lowe fiddler.

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TheCholulaKid posted this 23 June 2017

Originally posted by MrTrampoline

After pointing out that kind of naked hypocrisy, I was never going to be popular.

lou_lol

MrTrampoline posted this 23 June 2017

Originally posted by gavstar

Originally posted by MrTrampoline

"I didnt think that you were bothered about pissing people off?"

Oh I should like to get on with everyone like a house on fire if I could. Who wouldn't want to be agreeable and get on with people and whatnot?

I remember my first appearance here was about a year ago when I said I'd voted to leave the European Union as tighter controls on immigration would result in wage increases for the lowest paid workers in society, as described by Professor Ha-Joon Chang of Cambridge and admitted by former Marks and Spencer chief executive Lord Rose who was a prominent figure in the Remain campaign.

I tried to be as polite and civilised as I could, explaining that it simply wasn't in my interest to vote to Remain and that whilst one might make the argument that I ought to vote unselfishly, should the burden of sacrifice really fall on the lowest-paid members of society who are struggling the most? After all, isn't the whole idea of left-wing politics to support those at the bottom of the ladder?

But no. All of a sudden, a board full of peace-and-love lefties who suddenly, in an instant, performed a complete 180 and transformed into the most ruthless stereotype of Thatcherite libertarians that they supposedly stand in total opposition to; more-or-less saying that the poor deserve to be poor and that any low=paid worker failing to vote for more competition, less workers' rights and lower pay and so on thoroughly deserved to be right down in the shit where they belong. Predictable memes were wheeled out saying that if someone from another country could do your job without speaking the language maybe you're just shit; literally "fuck the poor they deserve what they get". 

After pointing out that kind of naked hypocrisy, I was never going to be popular.

 There's your first mistake Tramps, you entered the political threads too soon, think I left it at least 8 months before I got involved in that shitstorm.  Remember my first offering on this forum being a video (incorrectly linked of course) of (**SPOILERS**) an old lady getting twatted in the face by a ping pong ball and everyone loved me straight away lou_wink2

Here it is again for anyone who missed it first time around lou_lol

 Yeah, I think you're right - that was my intention at first.

I think what tipped me over the edge was the fact that as I've said, the forum is largely comprised of well-off, middle-aged people (no crime in that whatsoever), but many of whom were hiding their own reasons for voting one way or the other behind claiming to speak for 'young people' and therefore myself included.

One of my favourite statistics which serves as more-or-less a total rebuttal to the claim that "Oh but those poor young people have had their opportunties to work abroad taken away! Think of the children!" is the fact that there are roughly 110,000 Brits aged 18-30 are working in EU countries, when there about 11 million people aged 18-30 in Britain. So literally, someone aged 18-30 is 99% likely to be working in good, old-fashioned, unspectacular, boring old Blighty, rather than living the dream in Europe.

Now, granted, I'm quite sure that many of the posters on here harbour ambitions that their kids, several of whom go to private school, will one day be a senior enough position at a large enough corporation to have the chance to work abroad (again, nothing wrong with that whatsoever), but you just have to accep that it simply isn't an offer on the table for most young people in Britain - and to insist "oh, well, maybe the British kids should be more outward-looking" is just plain old poor-blaming. 

So like I say, putting that argument to bed for instance was never going to result in a warm reception.

Just be honest basically. Free movement of labour doesn't benefit the poor and young. By all means argue for the EU, but be sincere, that's all I ask really. 

Anyway. I'll head back to the football threads. To the credit of several posters here, most of them are cool with splitting up politics from football and not allowing posts on one to affect their view of the other. 

MrTrampoline posted this 23 June 2017 - Last edited 23 June 2017

(Oh, and just one last thing - not to brag at all, but I am due to start on a graduate scheme in September in the banking industry - so hey? Maybe I'll manage to make it into that 'upwardly mobile' 1% one day myself - the point is - my views haven't changed from a year ago just because my circumstances have. I'm fiercely loyal to my age group, generation, whatever you want to call it - because even if I'm personally fortunate enough to 'make it', I've got mates still being paid £18k for a full-time job in the centre of London which isn't even enough to allow them to move out and rent somewhere - they have to live at home with their parents in their mid-twenties - and the employers are able to do that because there are enough people who'll have to accept that offer - the 'new normal' is shit for a lot of people - and the largest cause of that is the fact that the labour market has been flooded.)

- right - back to the football threads.