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Totally agree with you Pap :lou_smiley: I just think, taken in isolation, that video isnā€™t what it is purported to be!

My muslim mates are hating the fact thet they have more than 1 mother in law

Just saying like

Youā€™re looking for this kind of thing @btripz

Only fair to show the other sides view.

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Not paticularly thanks, I donā€™t need to go looking for that sort of shit to know it goes onā€¦

Sorry Bob, the first one is a bit harrowing, but the second is informative, when trying to understand how one person can view anothers life as so completely worthless(women and children included). The glee in their voices when they hit an unarmed person hundreds of metres away, that is no threat to anyone is very revealing and somewhat sickening.

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Iā€™ve gone to some lengths to understand this issue. Iā€™d still recommend Yoav Shamirā€™s Defamation, which is one of the best things Iā€™ve seen in seeking to understand it. Iā€™ve linked it here before.

I take the view that no human is born with a moustache twirling streak of evil. I remember our eldest coming back from school at age five and asking us what a ā€œniggerā€ was. A black kid had just started at her school, my daughter had been given the responsibility of chaperoning her around in her first days at school. During the prosecution of her duties, there was a five year old boy who called her young charge that name.

That boy was a racist at five years old, and there was really only one way it could have happened. He was conditioned to be so by the people around him. Iā€™ve no doubt he thought himself utterly in the right to parrot sentiments heā€™d heard elsewhere.

Shamirā€™s film shows the same thing happening systematically, in the education system, in Israel. These kids are taught by their own state that Israel is the only safe place in the world for them, that the rest of the world is anti-Semitic, hates them and will kill them, given the opportunity.

Itā€™s heartbreaking to watch, but it went a long way to explaining the situation for me personally. That five year old racist probably wonā€™t be a racist when he grows up; heā€™ll probably end up thinking that the people who taught him those things were utter dicks. Israeli kids are subject to a curriculum which teaches them that the world is as dangerous for Jews today as it was in Hitlerā€™s Germany, and that they have a natural right to the country they live in, and that the Palestinians are the invaders. What chance do they got of swerving that direction?

Astoundingly, some do, and it is Israeli dissidents like Yoav Shamir and Jonathan Cook that often provide some of the most insightful analysis of life in that country.

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http://www.newsweek.com/israel-europe-go-thousand-thousand-hells-criticizing-attack-protesters-940647?yptr=yahoo

Well, that ainā€™t gonna help their cause is it?!

Yeah, thatā€™s not weird.

I suspect the punishment will be the same as it is nowā€¦death.

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Donā€™t think itā€™ll stop anyone. Why would it, when as you say, death whatever. Imagine that being your only choice, humiliating subservient death, or peaceful protest death.

They shot more than 12000 people over the 6 weeks, that were absolutely no threat to them(apart from the baby that could almost sit up independently).

Over 2000 a week, every week, with dumb-dumb bullets, purely because that massively inflates the chance of crippling the innocent victim.

What fucked up psychopaths they are.

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Need one say moreā€¦horrible. :lou_sad:

FFS.

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Ok.

So why does the UK do nothing?

Why does the USA do nothing?

Why does the EU do nothing?

The rest of the worldā€¦?

Iā€™m ashamed that we donā€™t.

Iā€™m appalled that our elected representatives feel it is ok not to act.

I feel helpless that I canā€™t make it stop.

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If the UK/US did nothing that would be a massive improvement. Unfortunately we sell the cunts weapons and offer support wherever possible.

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At least the Chinese are on board:

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:lou_lol:oops!

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