Klopp to Liverpool; Allardyce to Sunderland

Two managerial appointments in one day.

Jurgen Klopp makes his long-heralded move to Liverpool. Sam Allardyce takes the Alladici brand of football to the Stadium of Light.

Good moves for clubs and men?

Feel sorry for Klopp ( although with 15-20 mil from its maybe the wrong word) ā€¦ the deluded on Merseyside believe its possible to win the league without the levels of spend of the Chelsea/City clubsā€¦ and that they have a devine right to it because of their ā€˜historyā€™ā€¦

As for Allerdeechee (ha fucking ha) to Sunderlandā€¦ is it just me or do the likes of fat sam illustrate why English football is pretty shite when you takle the ā€˜foreignersā€™ out our game ?

I think big Sam is a good appointment for Sunderland. Given that no one else is going to take that job. Theyā€™re a mess and have been for years. He will do a decent job there but I still think they are going down.

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I donā€™t suppose the Sunderland supporters feel as underwhelmed as I did when we followed Liverpoolā€™s appointment of Rafael Benitez with that of Steve Wigley :slight_frown:

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Fat Sam unlikely to leave due to the various interfering people there? Would be their first manager in about six to not suffer from that, if so.

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Originally posted by @saintbletch

Pap will be sacking his butler when he seeā€™s this :laughing:

All good fun. There are other pictures doing the rounds in far worse taste.

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Iā€™m sorry but I donā€™t see Kloop doing any better at 'pool than Deluded Brendan did.

As for Sunderland and Sam, match made in Heaven for the lovers of turgid, attritional footballā€¦

My favourite description of Klopp so far, from Barney Ronay - ā€œHe looks like a very friendly life-sized cartoon cat who wants to give you a high five and teach you how to cross the road.ā€. The rest of the article makes interesting reading too. Iā€™ll be fascinated to see how he does in this country; Iā€™d agree with Ronay that football here (as with many other things) is profoundly anti-intellectual. And, if there is such a thing as a footballing intellectual, then Klopp is that thing.

I think BFS could be ideal for Sunderland, as long as he makes it clear that he and he alone dfeals with transfers (and, of course, that he and he alone takes the benefits associated with said transfers). His teams play by numbers, like those of Pulis, but if he gets those numbers right heā€™ll keep them up I reckon.

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Klopp was pretty impressive in his press conference.

I think heā€™s going to be a class act for them, unfortunately.

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Talks a lot of sense and comes across really well.

Not sure the Liverpool fans will identify with him.

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Big Sam will keep Sunderland up. Love him or as many do, hate him, but he will do a good job with them.

What are the odds on Kevin Nolan and Carlton Cole signing for Sunderland in January?

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'Bout same as NK signing for them (NK because I canā€™t spell Nic Kronjcharrjrr) had our deal old darling twitcher got the gigā€¦ might have been too far from Rosieā€™s Bank

Fergie is apparently ā€œworriedā€, being Liverpool and all that.

I have to say, I had the misfortune of being on a plane to Belfast on the Monday morning following Man Unitedā€™s record breaking 19th title. It was full of Norn Iron boys, who, on top of their victory, obviously planned a night out in Liverpool to drink scouse tears.,

One of them drew 19 in the condensation of the window of the airside bus. At least three of them just kept on saying ā€œnineteenā€. Little bit eerie, if Iā€™m honest. If nothing else, Iā€™d like those scary mindless cunts off their perch.