We mock patriotism in this Country, we openly celebrate other nations heritage and culture in the name of piss ups, diversity, multiculturalism and appearance and yet we don’t celebrate our own or scorn and laugh at people that do.
the British (English solely in this instance), we’re are an incredibly insecure, unsure and strange race of peoples that is for sure.
Do you really do all them things Barry? I don’t do none of them things.
Wait, does Christmas count as “other nations heritage and culture”? I party hard at Christmas.
I think the problem you refer to Barry is just a tiny minority.
I’ve only seen a handful of English people openly celebrating other nations’ heritage while abusing their own.
They were marching through our town centres doing Nazi salutes and shouting racist abuse at British people.
Be honest if you have an English flag draped over your porch your seen as common or extremely wealthy, the liberals laugh and scorn at it, as soon as Bolivia marks remembrance to the 1879 massacre of falafel over lentil to create the revolution out comes the sandals and hemp flags and off they celebrate, anyone but their own.
The fact you can’t name an actual example of where that happens proves you’re talking shit.
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It’s a term of endearment. Or is it exasperation? I can never remember.
I’m neither common nor extremely wealthy but I have an English flag draped over my porch. I find it useful for keeping the blacks away.
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Whoa Barry, don’t tar us all with your brush. Just because you don’t enjoy a Morris dance, a jig around the maypole, shin-kicking, cheese-rolling, ale-drinking, conkers, etc. doesn’t mean others don’t. I enjoy a good country dance and love a coracle. Or is that not the right sort of ‘English heritage and culture’ for you?
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Where what happens? Flags over porches? US, Canada, Ireland, Australia, being English is looking elsewhere being proud not here. Some lineage of yesteryear bears more relevance than now, always baffles me as I have Irish and Welsh heritage and have lived in a few places but this is my home, no where else, if I was continually looking elsewhere I’d move there.
What a depressing notion to live in a place you want to usurp or despise. What do yanks say? Love it or leave it?
And do-si-do your partners and back to your places…
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You’re all fucking hypocrites your sort @bearsy
I love where I come from, this is my home these woods, I’m proud to be from here…
Then you go shitting all over the place and stealing picnics.
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No, Barry. I was referring to examples of sandal wearers going off to celebrate other countries whilst despising our own. You named some fictious event involving Bolivia. What I was saying is that if people really do go and do what you’ve suggested, name a real example rather than making one up.
St Patricks Day.
Unlike you to be so tunnel-visioned Barry. Do you never watch the Royal bashes? Wall to wall union jacks. Never been to a street or village hall party to celebrate another royal wedding or Queen’s special anniversary? Never been involved in a piss up when we have won something? (Granted that doesn’t happen often). Us Brits are not an overly demonstrative bunch, but we do let our hair down when we feel inclined in celebration of something homegrown. The fact that we don’t need to cover ourselves in flags has probably got more to do with the fact that we are secure in who we are, so don’t feel the need, more than national self loathing. And the fact that we are more than happy to go and help others celebrate their own special occasions shows what a well balanced and well integrated bunch we all are.
Funny the liberals always say how intolerant we are, are we now the best?
Ooh, get you
Swerve noted. 
No, I’m saying that some things can’t be assessed cumulatively, and that there are certain deal-breakers that you just cannot live with. Greece would be one of them. Not only are the folk that are left there (emigration has been rampant) still in a mire they cannot solve, but they’ve had their democracy taken from them, and forced to sell off all of their public assets, at the behest of a relatively small cabal of establishment politicians.
Is the treatment of Greece indicative of European Union values? It certainly is if we weight our judgement on actions instead of words. My posting history elsewhere will show me as a pro-European about a decade ago, and that was largely because I’d seen the good it had done in Liverpool. EU money got things built, got businesses on the Internet, and built a real IT sector in the city.
However, I can’t overlook Greece, nor can I overlook the inherent dangers of a large military force beholden only to similar small cabals of establishment politicians in the future. People are nervous as fuck about Germany remilitarising. The EU Army will be presented as the softer political option, but in reality, will probably be a lot scarier.