So I am sure we will have some pretty strong views on this, so I think it will be an interesting debate.
Depends if you are prepared to put total trust in the current government and all future governments.
I personally wouldn’t make that leap of faith. The last two governments have fucked our safety up further, not sorted it out. Blair took us into Iraq, Cameron created a rubble-zone in Libya.
I don’t believe these people when they say “we can make you safe”.
They’re probably only looking to legalise what they’re already doing. Remember Snowden at all?
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So are they keeping 12 months or full history? The article says both but I assume it’ll just be 12 months.
To be honest neither bother me too much, the worst they’d find on my history is octoporn and a deeper investigation into this area with send them in Tokyo’s direction, which I’m ok with.
If I do ever decide to search how to despose of a human body I probably wouldn’t do it on my computer whilst logged into my Google account anyway.
Originally posted by @Spudders
If I do ever decide to search how to despose of a human body I probably wouldn’t do it on my computer whilst logged into my Google account anyway.
Another good point. Anyone with a lick of sense would cover their tracks.
In the same way that 100% of criminals wear gloves, masks, drive vehicles that they just rented in a false name and never leave any trace of DNA? Fortunately some criminals are idiots.
Although history tells us many people don’t have common sense. I mean this guy on trial in Bristol for kidnapping and chopping up that girl did exactly this, searched youtube for answers around how to despose of a body. It’s laughable really. And then to pop down the local DIY store to buy plastic sacks etc!!!
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In the same way that 100% of criminals wear gloves, masks, drive vehicles that they just rented in a false name and never leave any trace of DNA? Fortunately some criminals are idiots.
We’re talking about prevention here, right?
Why do we need something so blanket? What’s wrong with the idea of a court-sanctioned electronic wiretap? e.g. if an individual is under suspicion, then go through a court and do it legally.
Also, wouldn’t it just be easier to have a foreign policy that didn’t leave a third of the world wanting to kill us?
“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
Benjamin Franklin
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Whilst it should be parents bringing their children up with morals and respect, it might not be a bad thing for kids and teenagers to have to think twice about what they search for online.
Kids search for all sorts of horrific stuff these days, partly because it’s there, but partly because they can. If it makes them think twice about searching for some of the nastier stuff out there, then maybe that’s not such a bad thing?
Let’s ban all kitchen knives. Rationale; kids might misuse them. Let’s ban all violent and/or rude films. Rationale; kids might see them. Let’s impose police state level monitoring on what people read and write, and arrest them if they read the wrong things. Rationale; kids are searching for bad shit online.
Call me arrogant and full of myself, but that’s where I figured the role of the parent would come into play, and I’m a better parent to my kids than the state could ever be.
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Now you’re sounding like Sarnia… 
To be fair pap I did start with the fact it should be parents responsible for this kind of thing.
But kids with always try and search for stuff online they probably shouldn’t. I’m just saying they might be less likely to do so if they knew that their searches would appear on a list.
As a child I used to search behind the bushes for discarded porn and if there wasn’t any, I look at the Kay’s catalogue. If someone had told me that those bushes were beings monitored, I’d still have gone there, but maybe with a disguise on.
As the passage of time erodes my youthful memories, I can’t recall if the porn behind the bushes was a one off find or whether it was regualrly dumped there. I think it was more than once.
I don’t believe that kids search for all sorts of horrific things nowadays. They will look at porn, that’s normal, I think. Beyond that, I don’t think it young people searching for bizarre things is the norm. I’ve never seen a beheading video because I don’t want to see one. I imagine most people are the same. What sort of horrific stuff do you think young people search for, spudgun?
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I am quite happy to give my blessing to this on one condition.
That the last 12 months of internet search history for every MP is published in full.
Pig fucking anyone?
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I personally avoid things like beheading stuff as well Fatso, as I’m sure many youngsters also do. But there are also the people that do search for it. Beheadings, torture, there are sites with pictures of bodies from traffic accidents, all sorts is out there on the Web.
The more of this stuff these kids see the more normal it becomes to them.
I like your porn anology. When I was younger I put some rubbish in a bin on a Saturday morning near our local station. I noticed two porn mags which I took out. The next Saturday I went back just in case, there were 2 more. I accumulated a nice little collection over time. But if I knew my parents were going to get a list of my finds I wouldn’t have kept going back personally.
You would have gone back, spudders. Of course you would have. You may have stuck on a flat cap and fake moustache (IP scrambler or something) but you’d have gone back.
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These horrible things you mention, like torture, beheadings and dead bodies from accidents may well exist, but I doubt any young people are looking at them.
In fact, I think a bigger threat to our young people and social standards are the ratings films get nowadays. If you watch a 12 rated film you can hear the word “shit” in them. When did that become acceptable for 12 year olds? A 15 rated film today is basically an 18. It’s not the availability of torture videos on the internet that we should be concerned with, it is the prevelance of poor language and manners that permeates our children’s every waking moment…from films to pop videos, to Dick and Dom in the cinema shouting “bogies” in an anti social manner. These are the cunts responsible for the breakdown of society. I think I’ve wandered off topic.
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Originally posted by @pap
Also, wouldn’t it just be easier to have a foreign policy that didn’t leave a third of the world wanting to kill us?
“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
Benjamin Franklin
While I do not agree with some aspects of our foreign policy, I would much rather we had our global reputation than that of Switzerland.
I don’t think it’s too off topic. You’re right about film ratings. It’s the same for computer games.
I’d be interested to know what percentage of teenagers have seen something such as a beheading video?
