Right lads I've calmed down

I think there is a validity in a genuine discussion about the impact of the chosen strategy on the field… after all we know it makes good financial sense, but it does effect how we go about ensuring whichever manager we have can build a side, not just constantly have to re-jigger the chess pieces.

However, what I can’t understand is why a) some seem to equate the fate of football as if they have just caught a nasty dose of the clap from their wife, b) that some think it’s a good ole laugh for a wind up post match when the emotions are maybe a bit artificially stressed…

its football and NO it’s not as important as life or death, in fact it’s not even close

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Why did ‘senior managment’ make a overt point about being open with supporters of the club if they wernt going to be?

Why do the Lieberr’s think given how they say they love the club think it is OK to take £150m profit into their own bank accounts. That would be fine if they were the owners of a widget factory. That is ware we disagree. I think they are acting exactly like owners of a private company. As supporters we should be bringing them to account and demand a higher standard - one fitting a football club

I dont believe they should get a free pass otherwise they will carry on believing theit own myths

Oh yeah, I’d forgotten his Heisenberg incarnation.

You’re quite right. That dose I caught from your wife was even worse than last Wednesday’s debacle, and that’s saying something.

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That’s why I don’t sleep with her, just your sister

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How do we know that they have now decided not to be “open.” What exactly are they not being open about? Do you expect an announcement from them after every football match? That is the managers job isn’t it? We last heard from Ms Leibherr when she had something to announce. Apparently nothing has changed since then so what do you want them to say? Also Southampton FC is not a charity. It is a business. There are very few people rich enough to throw money at a club and not expect anything back. I don’t think the club have a free pass. If and when we enter into a full on relegation battle I expect someone will say something ( which you will probably take issue with). At the moment we are a mid table club sitting in mid table with a new manager with barely half a season under his belt. You will probably disagree but I can understand why there is no great need from the Board to come out and make announcements right now. And if they did what could they possibly say that will placate you, Barry and the multitude of bed wetter over on Fiverweb?

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If you said to me in 2009 someone will dig us out of the shit, keep us in existence and then propel us to the premier league, but the caveat after a few years is that they want £150m (when the club is more financially stable than ever) I would have said ‘fucking too right, make it a nice round £200m in fact and thanks very much’. Have you forgotten how deep we were? We were on our backs in the sun with no way of flipping over, noone was interested. Then Marcus came along and got us not only flipped over but fucking running. £150m is a fucking bargain for where we are compared to where we were. If that number is even accurate.

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Which it almost certainly won’t be. Do you have anything to back it up, NYS?

I read elsewhere, possibly Fiverweb, a guy was kicking off because football is “supposed to be an entertainment.” No it isnt. It is a sport where one lot of people try to beat another lot of people. Sometimes it can be entertaining, but that is not its purpose. If you want entertainment go top the cinema or theatre.

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Or Eastleigh cab rank, 3AM.

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So you found Bletch then?

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Just the ability to read. Its easy, Just take your blinkers off and put your Kat beads in the bin first.

This is a very familiar theme of ‘prove it’ ‘do you have evidence’. Its the same from the Trumpers and flat earthers .its sort of a shame. Facts wont change their opinion and you sound just the same.

So it’s just a number that you made up then. Thought so. Still ploughing that same old furrow too - aren’t you getting a bit bored with yourself by now?

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Fucking hell, spout made up numbers to prove a point then get huffy when you are called on it?

Mental.

Why are people even engaging with this idiot? He’s clearly a troll who enjoys attention and you’re giving it to him… So he’ll continue. I’d rather he just fuck off.

Why dont you just build a wall so nobody who dissagrees with you cant get in. Pathetic. If you want a forum where everyone is the same as you then you are showing your true colours

Yeah Fatso, why don’t you build a wall of disagreement or something … Pathetic!

Why not just put a link up confirming your figures? It’s so fucking easy i have done it for you.

Liebherr>Southampton>£150m. Put them in an Internet search and hey presto

Some shit about cranes.

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I am sure the £150m, if it is correct, is the profit on the Liebherr shareholding. That is, the growth on what they originally paid (circa £10m) and what they got from the Chinese. This is overlooking the loans converted to equity some time ago of course.

At no point has this been the club’s money. Its the value of the shares. Some years ago (around the time our famously spend-happy chairman left, and years before Financial Fair Play), the club said they wanted to be self-sufficient. This means not being funded by the owners’ wealth, only by the income the club generates.

So what the fuck is anyone doing moaning that the Liebherr family are not investing millions more of their money now is beyond me. As has been pointed out, they got us to where we are and have thankfully behaved very differently to most other wealthy owners along the way.

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The Liebherr family saved this club :slight_frown:

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