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Where? You never asked for a script, only how the episode could be improved.

If you wanted a script you could have saved us both some time by just asking, saving me the time writing the above and this.

No(just in case you were going to ask).

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v.wise. Itā€™s not like heā€™d back down if you handed in a superior script. Heā€™d have made you film it.

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So taking out five to ten minutes and replacing it with nowt, then?

There are people that get paid very well to do that job. Moan at them for their lazy attitude to content and yourself for accepting it.

Complaining without offering a solution is just whining.

Damm, someone has already taken the whinging role :lou_sad:

Maybe next time.

P. S If you read back you may find i suggested exploring other characters.

I honestly donā€™t know why you find the relationships so troublesome. All of them are serving the narrative in better ways than not doing them would. We care more about Stamets because we also care about Culver. We know the Tyler=Voq thing will hit even harder because Burnham thinks so much of him. Cornwellā€™s relationship with Lorca has already provided crucial clues about his background that couldnā€™t have been gotten at any other way.

Besides, the older Trek was far more unrealistic in this regard. People not wanting to shag the only other people for light years around. Whatā€™s up with that?

Iā€™m with you on the other relationships, but the instant love match forced on us(together every mission) is just shit. Isnā€™t she part Klingon? Are they normally impetuous?

Was he an after thought, because someone had an idea(voq relationship maybe) and they wanted to work it in? Thatā€™s how it looks. Think back, he was a prisoner being tortured and the next day heā€™s fucking security chief of not just a starship, but the most important one, going on every mission, whilst failing in love.

I would kill him off as quick as they can, but they wonā€™t, theyā€™ll take the lazy option.

Forget love boat, itā€™ll end up more, Jeremy Kyle in space.

Burnham is human, but was raised on Vulcan after being adopted by Sarek at the age of ten. Lorca owed his escape to Tyler, saw how handy he was and absent a security officer after the death of Landry, put him in that spot. The show itself has questioned this decision, along with the decision to appoint Burnham in any capacity whatsoever. Both are Lorcaā€™s calls, and to me, the relationship is completely natural within the context. Apart from Lorca, Tyler was literally the only person to talk to Burnham that doesnā€™t have to. She lives with Tilly, and works with all the other characters. He sought her out. Add that to Lorcaā€™s appraisal, their respective skills (she did kill Tā€™Kuvma) itā€™s not a stretch that they get put on missions together.

Iā€™m with the Internet on this one. Tyler is Voq, and the minute he is, his fascination with Burnham is all the more explainable. For the record, I donā€™t think he knows heā€™s Voq, but heā€™s starting to work it out.

Another thing Iā€™m with the Internet on is Lorca being from the Mirror Universe. The original Lorca went down with his ship. This one is a replacement, which is why he knows about alternate universes, why he deliberately fucked Stamets up to get there, why Cornwell thinks ā€œheā€™s like a different personā€ and why he has this inexplicable connection to Burnham. He probably knows her counterpart in the Mirror Universe.

He is not a Federation officer. If heā€™s an officer of any stripe, heā€™s working for the Terran Empire, and if that turns out to be the case, itā€™s just going to put the icing on the cake on what is the finest nine-episode run of Trek ever, justifying both the serialised nature of the show and the character decisions it has made.

Fucking hell, iā€™m never mentioning star trek to you at prematch beers :lou_lol:

Good write up. Do these people on the Internet take a lot of drugs?

Do the script writers just look at the Internet and water it down a bit, add a shit love story then regurgitate?

They take a lot of continuity.

If you want to get prepared for the last half of the season, watch ā€œIn a Mirror Darklyā€, Enterprise.

Itā€™s on Netflix, and itā€™s excellent. They even did a special intro.

I think @bearsy should make a video based off it after his original effort. Itā€™s basically papsweb post-referendum :lou_sunglasses:

Bloody hell

Kill Bill Shatner 2?

Lots of storyline speculation but talk about big guns compared to His bless him Simon Peggā€™s script

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Phasers set to KILL, muthaf**kas!

Yes, Iā€™d watch that.

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From Dusk to Trek, I could be interested in thatā€¦

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Meet the real Paul Stamets.

And set mind to blown.

Theyā€™e BACK!

OOF.

No spoilers

All Hail

Long live

Back with a bang

I enjoyed it very muchly, especially Tilly

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Iā€™ll try not to spoil too much, but the benefits of planning a whole season, as opposed to a series of individual episodes. Last nightā€™s episode was a joy to watch in itself. Itā€™ll be easy to be accused of hyperbole, but again, itā€™s some of the best Trek Iā€™ve ever seen. Itā€™s the planning that really impresses.

Iā€™m listening to Permanent RCRDā€™s Trek podcast at the moment. I recommend it highly, because they nail just exactly how clever this show has been in terms of plotting and foreshadowing. ā€œCaptainā€ Tilly has been a thing throughout, ever since she stated her ambition to be one, and being called ā€œCaptainā€ by Stamets after one of his tardigrade trips. I guess we have an idea of where his mind went now.

The boys on the podcast talk about how well the theme of duality has been nurtured all along; the opening episode was called ā€œThe Battle of the Binary Starsā€, Tylerā€™s got a duality all of his own, youā€™ve Lorca, the most unStarfleet Captain ever to have existed (this episode does fuck all to refute the theory that he is Mirror Lorca) and then youā€™ve got the conflict between the values of Starfleet and the Federation and the things it is prepared to do in its name for its survival. Mirror Lorca probably doesnā€™t help.

Standalone, itā€™s one of the best Trek episodes I have ever seen. Considered in context, both in this show, and the way it seems to be tying up with Star Trek: Enterprise canon, and itā€™s fucking magnificent.

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Agree with mostly all that, didnā€™t really watch enterprise so canā€™t comment how it ties in so Iā€™ll take your word. Iā€™m looking forward to meeting mirror Burnham as I will surely like that one if she is the opposite to the one we have.

We wonā€™t see Mirror Burnham.

I reckon we should presume her actually dead, killed by Mirror Lorca, as the record states.

The interesting thing is that the Terran Empire has not been able to lay hands on him. until now.

I wonder why? :lou_sunglasses: