Damm, someone has already taken the whinging role
Maybe next time.
P. S If you read back you may find i suggested exploring other characters.
Damm, someone has already taken the whinging role
Maybe next time.
P. S If you read back you may find i suggested exploring other characters.
I honestly donât know why you find the relationships so troublesome. All of them are serving the narrative in better ways than not doing them would. We care more about Stamets because we also care about Culver. We know the Tyler=Voq thing will hit even harder because Burnham thinks so much of him. Cornwellâs relationship with Lorca has already provided crucial clues about his background that couldnât have been gotten at any other way.
Besides, the older Trek was far more unrealistic in this regard. People not wanting to shag the only other people for light years around. Whatâs up with that?
Iâm with you on the other relationships, but the instant love match forced on us(together every mission) is just shit. Isnât she part Klingon? Are they normally impetuous?
Was he an after thought, because someone had an idea(voq relationship maybe) and they wanted to work it in? Thatâs how it looks. Think back, he was a prisoner being tortured and the next day heâs fucking security chief of not just a starship, but the most important one, going on every mission, whilst failing in love.
I would kill him off as quick as they can, but they wonât, theyâll take the lazy option.
Forget love boat, itâll end up more, Jeremy Kyle in space.
Burnham is human, but was raised on Vulcan after being adopted by Sarek at the age of ten. Lorca owed his escape to Tyler, saw how handy he was and absent a security officer after the death of Landry, put him in that spot. The show itself has questioned this decision, along with the decision to appoint Burnham in any capacity whatsoever. Both are Lorcaâs calls, and to me, the relationship is completely natural within the context. Apart from Lorca, Tyler was literally the only person to talk to Burnham that doesnât have to. She lives with Tilly, and works with all the other characters. He sought her out. Add that to Lorcaâs appraisal, their respective skills (she did kill TâKuvma) itâs not a stretch that they get put on missions together.
Iâm with the Internet on this one. Tyler is Voq, and the minute he is, his fascination with Burnham is all the more explainable. For the record, I donât think he knows heâs Voq, but heâs starting to work it out.
Another thing Iâm with the Internet on is Lorca being from the Mirror Universe. The original Lorca went down with his ship. This one is a replacement, which is why he knows about alternate universes, why he deliberately fucked Stamets up to get there, why Cornwell thinks âheâs like a different personâ and why he has this inexplicable connection to Burnham. He probably knows her counterpart in the Mirror Universe.
He is not a Federation officer. If heâs an officer of any stripe, heâs working for the Terran Empire, and if that turns out to be the case, itâs just going to put the icing on the cake on what is the finest nine-episode run of Trek ever, justifying both the serialised nature of the show and the character decisions it has made.
Fucking hell, iâm never mentioning star trek to you at prematch beers
Good write up. Do these people on the Internet take a lot of drugs?
Do the script writers just look at the Internet and water it down a bit, add a shit love story then regurgitate?
They take a lot of continuity.
If you want to get prepared for the last half of the season, watch âIn a Mirror Darklyâ, Enterprise.
Itâs on Netflix, and itâs excellent. They even did a special intro.
I think @bearsy should make a video based off it after his original effort. Itâs basically papsweb post-referendum
Bloody hell
Kill Bill Shatner 2?
Lots of storyline speculation but talk about big guns compared to His bless him Simon Peggâs script
Phasers set to KILL, muthaf**kas!
Yes, Iâd watch that.
From Dusk to Trek, I could be interested in thatâŚ
Theyâe BACK!
OOF.
No spoilers
All Hail
Long live
Back with a bang
I enjoyed it very muchly, especially Tilly
Iâll try not to spoil too much, but the benefits of planning a whole season, as opposed to a series of individual episodes. Last nightâs episode was a joy to watch in itself. Itâll be easy to be accused of hyperbole, but again, itâs some of the best Trek Iâve ever seen. Itâs the planning that really impresses.
Iâm listening to Permanent RCRDâs Trek podcast at the moment. I recommend it highly, because they nail just exactly how clever this show has been in terms of plotting and foreshadowing. âCaptainâ Tilly has been a thing throughout, ever since she stated her ambition to be one, and being called âCaptainâ by Stamets after one of his tardigrade trips. I guess we have an idea of where his mind went now.
The boys on the podcast talk about how well the theme of duality has been nurtured all along; the opening episode was called âThe Battle of the Binary Starsâ, Tylerâs got a duality all of his own, youâve Lorca, the most unStarfleet Captain ever to have existed (this episode does fuck all to refute the theory that he is Mirror Lorca) and then youâve got the conflict between the values of Starfleet and the Federation and the things it is prepared to do in its name for its survival. Mirror Lorca probably doesnât help.
Standalone, itâs one of the best Trek episodes I have ever seen. Considered in context, both in this show, and the way it seems to be tying up with Star Trek: Enterprise canon, and itâs fucking magnificent.
Agree with mostly all that, didnât really watch enterprise so canât comment how it ties in so Iâll take your word. Iâm looking forward to meeting mirror Burnham as I will surely like that one if she is the opposite to the one we have.
We wonât see Mirror Burnham.
I reckon we should presume her actually dead, killed by Mirror Lorca, as the record states.
The interesting thing is that the Terran Empire has not been able to lay hands on him. until now.
I wonder why?
The latest Trek episode is inside my mind.
Super stuff, as usual, with only one plot line floundering a bit. Another big fan theory finally confirmed; thereâs simply no way back. The Mirror Lorca theory gets yet another boost in the opening monologue when Burnham, considering her situation after some time commanding an ISS ship, says âeven the light isnât the same hereâ.
I do however, have a big problem with the internal logic of this episode. Without saying who, the identity of the Terran Emperor is revealed in this episode. Itâs a big moment. Itâs a great moment, and in the moment, the Rule of Cool completely overtook me. As I lay back in the Star Trek equivalent of post coital contemplation, Iâm somewhat more critical.
Last episode, they theived a data module from the wreckage of a starship. Damaged as it was, this module contained vital information, such as who the Captain of the ISS Discovery was, the fate of Mirror Burnham and Mirror Lorca was known, and indeed became an integral part of the plan, driving plot arcs forward.
They know a LOT about the Mirror Universe.
So how comes they didnât Stargoogle who the fucking Emperor was?
I know _why _they did it dramatically, but itâs a plot hole the size of a black hole. I darenât look on Twitter.
You missed the real question Pap.
Last weekâ After Trek implied the Doc isnâ dead yet wonâ be in the Mirror Universe.
Steamers corals but doesnâ and chats withâŚ
So how does ISS Disco get around.
Also perhaps Burnhams reaction is horror at having her plan (& life prospects) screwed by the Emperor showing up to finish the job.
But I agree it is superb TV and Trek on steroids
I like most trekkies rejoiced at the release of the Kelvin timeline movies. We finally had Trek back. It had faults but we loved it.
Then we got Star Trek Beyond. No not Simon Peggâs perjury, I mean next level. Game Over Beyond.
No spoilers - too early in the week, but as the strands come together in Discovery (papâs plot hole not withstanding) we are seeing just how good this new iteration is.
It is Epic
Hard to see how the Movie franchise with itâs bad guy formula can hope to compete.
#rimship
Spoilers ahoy
That was pretty special, and yes, I agree with Philâs comments about Discovery nurturing the ultimate Star Trek villain.
Iâm not as arsed about the plothole. I went back and rewatched the Mirror Universe episodes before now, and to be fair to them, they referred to the Terran Empire having a faceless Emperor. Good enough for me, especially given how cool it was to see Georgiou again, now in Emperor form.
The big B plot was Stamets finding his way out of his mycellium-induced coma, which was very sweet. The C plot was Tyler, and Saruâs attempts to enlist a reluctant LâRenn in his treatment.
However, itâs the main plot that really delivered this week, mostly because it drops the bombshell on the audience that theyâve been watching it all along. Alright, the clues have been copious and much discussed online, but no-one is going to finish this season thinking the writers have been pulling this shit out of their arses at random. No-oneâs going to write angry letters saying âyou pulled some LOST level shit there, dudesâ.
Kudos to the writer. Theyâve layered the show like an especially fine lasagne, except when you see this episode, look at those that preceded it, youâll realise that unlike the insta-gut Italian dish, thereâs no fucking fat in this at all.