šŸ–– Star Trek returning to small screens :starfleet:

You mean I have to wait 2 months for the next episode oh shit!

Anyway Dr Who will be back by then :lou_lol:

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I understand it just fine. I also understand there is good fiction and shit fiction.

The two people were sent on the away mission because these are two of the people we know the best. Furthermore, Lorca really didnā€™t want to send one of them. That, by the way happens because the writers are showing that given a similar situation, Burnham has grown.

Then you look at how both their times ended up by the end of the episode, and it makes total sense, from plot and fiction perspective.

One was a new character just the other week, but since then the two of them have been on every mission together. Itā€™s been turned into fucking love boat in space.

As for the end of the show, yes, we all saw most of that coming, because the show telegraphed it big style earlier in the episode. Perhaps you missed it, but I never predicted Lorca would deliberately stitch the jump (and Stamets) up.

I didnā€™t predict it either, but itā€™s not surprising and has been done before. Lazy writing.

Iā€™ve got two months to stew on it. Thatā€™s what they call a mid season finale.

Mid series and finale surely donā€™t belong together.

Youā€™re a marketing manā€™s dream punter :lou_lol:

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Alright then, @saint-or-sinner . Tell us how that episode could have been improved.

And as for marketing, guilty as charged. I was plugging this show before it had even been cast.

They could desist from turning it into love boat in space. That would help a lot. The way they have forced it is laughable. There is no real story to justify it. Weak and predictable to tick a required marketeers box.

But, iā€™m still watching it remember, so itā€™s not all bad(until they stopped me watching halfway through the series. That is bad).

I like it @pap but they do seem to be doing all in their power to ruin it. The base of all the stories have been good, but diminished by shit brain dead filler. I find that very annoying. The captain, her with the blokes name, the gay bloke and the lanky one are the only characters in it(need to dump the love interest, heā€™s shit and the whiny one is just there as filler. Although, as i predicted, she has been told, she will indeed make captain. Thatā€™s fucking laughable). They really need to expand it. Whoā€™s the little one with the facepaint that looks like they should be in Covent Garden? That one layer of facepaint is one more layer than youā€™ll ever get out of the love interest.

Remind me in two months(your honesty in your last paragraph makes this a given) and i will watch it again(and moan, iā€™m sure).

What a script! Letā€™s get that on screen, sharpish.

Iā€™m kind of surprised everyone missed one epoch changing moment in this weeks episode.

The first ever Gay Kiss.

Now about Mid Season Breaks.

Next weekend it will be Thanksgiving. So every traditional TV show will be pulling out the BIG EVENTS.

Then every show on US TV runs intgo Christmas and Holiday Season and audiences tend to only watch stuff with Santa and shit.

Finally, they were pushing the envelope all the way and filming was delayed. However the CBS All Access Pass is their game changing platform entry into streaming - which EVERY other studio is now doing. They had to hit release date which was already delayed.

Simple fact is that they only finished filming about 3 weeks ago and the VFX/CGI crew simply arenā€™t ready to release the completed new episodes yet.

Courtesy of Trekcore btw not me being ITK nerdy.

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Where? You never asked for a script, only how the episode could be improved.

If you wanted a script you could have saved us both some time by just asking, saving me the time writing the above and this.

No(just in case you were going to ask).

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v.wise. Itā€™s not like heā€™d back down if you handed in a superior script. Heā€™d have made you film it.

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So taking out five to ten minutes and replacing it with nowt, then?

There are people that get paid very well to do that job. Moan at them for their lazy attitude to content and yourself for accepting it.

Complaining without offering a solution is just whining.

Damm, someone has already taken the whinging role :lou_sad:

Maybe next time.

P. S If you read back you may find i suggested exploring other characters.

I honestly donā€™t know why you find the relationships so troublesome. All of them are serving the narrative in better ways than not doing them would. We care more about Stamets because we also care about Culver. We know the Tyler=Voq thing will hit even harder because Burnham thinks so much of him. Cornwellā€™s relationship with Lorca has already provided crucial clues about his background that couldnā€™t have been gotten at any other way.

Besides, the older Trek was far more unrealistic in this regard. People not wanting to shag the only other people for light years around. Whatā€™s up with that?

Iā€™m with you on the other relationships, but the instant love match forced on us(together every mission) is just shit. Isnā€™t she part Klingon? Are they normally impetuous?

Was he an after thought, because someone had an idea(voq relationship maybe) and they wanted to work it in? Thatā€™s how it looks. Think back, he was a prisoner being tortured and the next day heā€™s fucking security chief of not just a starship, but the most important one, going on every mission, whilst failing in love.

I would kill him off as quick as they can, but they wonā€™t, theyā€™ll take the lazy option.

Forget love boat, itā€™ll end up more, Jeremy Kyle in space.

Burnham is human, but was raised on Vulcan after being adopted by Sarek at the age of ten. Lorca owed his escape to Tyler, saw how handy he was and absent a security officer after the death of Landry, put him in that spot. The show itself has questioned this decision, along with the decision to appoint Burnham in any capacity whatsoever. Both are Lorcaā€™s calls, and to me, the relationship is completely natural within the context. Apart from Lorca, Tyler was literally the only person to talk to Burnham that doesnā€™t have to. She lives with Tilly, and works with all the other characters. He sought her out. Add that to Lorcaā€™s appraisal, their respective skills (she did kill Tā€™Kuvma) itā€™s not a stretch that they get put on missions together.

Iā€™m with the Internet on this one. Tyler is Voq, and the minute he is, his fascination with Burnham is all the more explainable. For the record, I donā€™t think he knows heā€™s Voq, but heā€™s starting to work it out.

Another thing Iā€™m with the Internet on is Lorca being from the Mirror Universe. The original Lorca went down with his ship. This one is a replacement, which is why he knows about alternate universes, why he deliberately fucked Stamets up to get there, why Cornwell thinks ā€œheā€™s like a different personā€ and why he has this inexplicable connection to Burnham. He probably knows her counterpart in the Mirror Universe.

He is not a Federation officer. If heā€™s an officer of any stripe, heā€™s working for the Terran Empire, and if that turns out to be the case, itā€™s just going to put the icing on the cake on what is the finest nine-episode run of Trek ever, justifying both the serialised nature of the show and the character decisions it has made.

Fucking hell, iā€™m never mentioning star trek to you at prematch beers :lou_lol:

Good write up. Do these people on the Internet take a lot of drugs?

Do the script writers just look at the Internet and water it down a bit, add a shit love story then regurgitate?

They take a lot of continuity.

If you want to get prepared for the last half of the season, watch ā€œIn a Mirror Darklyā€, Enterprise.

Itā€™s on Netflix, and itā€™s excellent. They even did a special intro.

I think @bearsy should make a video based off it after his original effort. Itā€™s basically papsweb post-referendum :lou_sunglasses:

Bloody hell

Kill Bill Shatner 2?

Lots of storyline speculation but talk about big guns compared to His bless him Simon Peggā€™s script

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Phasers set to KILL, muthaf**kas!

Yes, Iā€™d watch that.

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From Dusk to Trek, I could be interested in thatā€¦

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