🇸🇾 Syria

So we’re at loggerheads on who to believe? The Russians are known for their transparency aren’t they?

Just like our government?

Fisk, Hersch and Pilger are not Russian Barry.

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Anyone been demanding judgement before evidence?

Thats a different argument to whether you feel they did it? I have said all along we shouldn’t be doing anything in that Country unless the international community is with us.

You do realise who the Syrian Army/ Russian Army are fighting against don’t you Barry?

Do you believe the version of events told by Al Qaeda/Nusra/whatever other wahhabist ‘terrorist’ group?

I know they’re backed by US/UK etc but do you trust their picture of events despite it being strongly contested by Pulitzer prize winning investigative journalists with decades of experience in the Middle East?

If you were a betting man where would you put your money?

Its a proxy war, no one gives a shite about Syria its just happens to be the arena for Iran/Saudi/Russia and the US, throw in a few nations with interests in the area namely a lot and its going to get muddy, are the Russia capable? Yes. Are the Syrians? Yes.

Have they done this before?

Russians yes.

Syrians yes.

Where is the proof this was a staged event?

The Syrian regime is killing 100,000’s and being held there by Russia and their veto, we can talk about that as well if you want?

Or the journalists you mention and their agendas? Who do they write for?

Why is Russia helping Assad?

Those are the questions that need to be answered.

Come on, be fair. If you can’t take the word of Al Qaeda/Nusra/whatever other wahhabist terrorist group, whose word can you trust!

Where’s the proof it wasn’t a staged event. Your arguments are circular Barry.

Maybe leave it until some sort of international consensus is reached

Oh, that isn’t going to happen any time soon is it? :lou_facepalm_2:

Why are the Russians in Syria?

Why have they provided air missile defence systems?

Russia is doing Syria’s bidding so they can remain in the region and have influence, they’re murdering so they can have influence.

Argue against that.

Who’s historically killed more innocent people for influence in the middle east, Russia or the UK?

Is there evidence that Russia funds, arms and gives tactical support to known foreign jihadists(who sends them)?

I’ll buy a drink for anyone that can name all the terrorist groups in Syria, that are provably supported by the west and supplied with foreign fighters.

Does the UK have any legal right to be involved in Syria under international law?

Have any of the UK’s military involvements in the middle east improved the life’s of the people that didn’t want them there in the first place?

I’ve just realised how long this could go on. I’ll shut up now.

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You’ve answered a question with a question again, those questions don’t answer mine either.

It’s just a few general questions, that’s all(bit like my first post). If you feel it’s your duty to defend the faith, go for it.

See if you can answer any of the questions while you’re at it.

Here’s one more question. If the source of nearly all the western msm media are so trustworthy, why, when invited to receive an award(Oscar or something), was their leader denied a visa because he was classed as a terrorist?

What faith?

I only try to see agenda’s, thats where the truth is not a proxy war propping up a tyrant, people are genuinely falling for this did they/didn’t they shit and missing the picture totally.

Why are Russia propping up Assad?

What have they got to gain from it?

The chemical attack is simply a distraction, a side piece.

Anything in the news concerning the Crimea lately?

The Donbass?

The answer to your question is I don’t know but in the great scheme of things its about as important as a fence post in space.

I wouldn’t know.

I wouldn’t know.

No one would know that.

Grey area but probably not without a united consensus.

No.

Russia was invited by the Syrian government. Were the US? UK?

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Incidentally Bazza, why are you keen to swallow wholesale the writings of Tim Marshall as Gospel but nobody else? Is it because you haven’t read them or are just contrary? Did you ask what Marshall’s agenda is?

I understand Elon Musk is currently working on this.

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Ha Ha I haven’t, there are a number of geo political books I’ve read and they all don’t really paint Russia in a good light, why would they?

A legitimate Government? Ask the Kurds, why haven’t the UN intervened then? Barrel bombs from helicopters? You have a very very selective memory, the civil war didn’t start by the UK did it? Why did it start?

You haven’t really answered the question of Russia’s involvement in propping up a dictator, lovely copy and paste though.