So, a thread I created over there in my hiatus:
I see Surrey County Council are to hold a referendum to see whether people would be prepared to increase council tax payments by 15% to cater for social care within the county.
Personally I think it’s a good idea - the strain on the NHS at present is ridiculous, and the increase in social care places will help to ease that in the counties hospitals.
Good idea in theory but again, some can afford it more than others and are on the break even line. This will tip them over the edge. I am sure most people who’s morale compass is set in the correct place would want to do this is a perfect world. I mean why wouldn’t you? Especially when there is talk of privatisation!
Then again, if you live in Surrey…
Interesting. One problem with this approach is that it sets a precedent and starts to absolve central government of their responsibility. I pay my national taxes in order to have these services provided. Now I am willing to pay more but doing this on a county by county level simply means growing inequality between the counties with wealthy and those with poorer people. I’m happy to pay more tax if it meant keeping a high quality NHS and social care but I also believe that cuts to government spending are bullshit and in terms of the NHS are designed to weaken it as a pre-cursor to privatisation.
This is just the thin end of the wedge. There is a blatant drive to make the NHS unfit for purpose and force privatisation.
I do a lot of work on private healthcare and wellness schemes and believe me, they ain’t cheap if you want something that does the job. Also, if you need urgent acute care the NHS is the only place to go. Private healthcare is great for jumping queues though.
Raise the higher tax level for the rich. Simples. And not everyone in Surrey is minted guys!
I thought the Governemnt had told all councils that they had to do this.
I’m all for paying more but a 15% increase is a hell of a hike!!
Higher taxes, ring fenced definitely. Scrap NI and incorporate into income tax and have a separate health tax that the bastard tories can’t touch, even the most rabid blue would be hesitant of full privatisation on the NHS before they’ve run it into the ground.
Their whole set up and ideology is small state and large private sector paying low wages and little union protection.
The tories hate unions.
How about setting a budget which didn’t cause a crisis in the first place?
I was against the 45% tax rate before and I still am. Should be put back up to 50%.
Originally posted by @Sfcsim
Good idea in theory but again, some can afford it more than others and are on the break even line.
They should do the Vote, but then only make people who voted for it pay the extra. That seems the Fairest way.
I would be up for this if I could be confident that the extra money wouldn’t be
a) spunked up the wall by the council
b) central government swiping it be cutting central contribution
Adult social care charges for many of its services so I’d like to see a bit more detail on this. Happy to pay for services via taxes if they’re provided.
Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
So, a thread I created over there in my hiatus:
I see Surrey County Council are to hold a referendum to see whether people would be prepared to increase council tax payments by 15% to cater for social care within the county.
Personally I think it’s a good idea - the strain on the NHS at present is ridiculous, and the increase in social care places will help to ease that in the counties hospitals.
Hopefully some others will also take notice, and hold these - although it will be interesting to see how many people are interested in paying more to help the man on the street, and ultimately, themselves.
Yes, saw that - I’ll vote for it - but annoyed that it’s necessary
Not often that it’s worth voting in Surrey
Lock this please mods.
You can only vote at the Post office Monday 10:30AM, at the Debenhams Cafe Weds 2:15PM, or all day Sunday on rural roads where there is no overtaking opportunities.
Think this has got a fair chance of getting through tbh
if I’m in need of help of some sort (NHS or social care) then I’m happy to be taken in by a wealthy benefactor. I’d like to see a list of wealthy people or celebrities who are available. The government could do away with all public health services if they forced the wealthy to care for 10 people. Given not all the people will need help at any one time this shouldn’t be too much of a burden for them. I’d be happy to be paired with Bono as I know a lot of people would object to him. If I felt a bit poorly I would ring bono and see what he says. If its serious rather than just a headache I’d go round to his house and he would get his servants to look after me and call out his private doctor. Id have soup and care and bono could sing to me while we wait for the doctor. If my illness was life threatening I could be airlifted in his private helicopter to a private hospital. This saves central government money that they could spend on getting trident to point in the right direction and wouldn’t affect council taxes so surrey residents would still be able to buy their organic asparagus.
someone will have to be paired with Rolf Harris which is bad because (a) he won’t have long to live and what happens to you once your benefactor dies, and (b) he’d probably touch you as you slept on his sofa.
Bearsy can have him.
actually, I’ll have Frankie from the Saturdays.
Can I have Kate Silverton?
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Can I have Kate Silverton?
It’s not actually up to me. This will be a matter for Theresa May.