Here are the figures for Southampton:
15,000 jobs in your area are paying less than the living wage. This is 14.3% of all local jobs in the annual wage survey.
The recommended living wage in Southampton is £7.85, according to the Living Wage Foundation.
I love the assertion that under 25s are just not as productive. Oh really? So a 64-year old shelf-stacker outpaces a 19 year old one, then?
Was this thread set up to troll bear and spud to show how much even some 19 year olds can earn? If so, please add my like and 10 troll points.
Originally posted by @pap
I love the assertion that under 25s are just not as productive. Oh really? So a 64-year old shelf-stacker outpaces a 19 year old one, then?
Once you have the repeated phone checking, smoking breaks, banging on about last night’s banging, double vision from the multiple red-bulls-with-whatever and the inevitable late arrival, it does not leave a lot of time for work TBF
Nah, I honestly think it’s nonsense. We’re talking bottom end of the scale jobs here; not typically stuff that is going to require years of practice to do.
Helps nowt except the bottom line either. They do it because they can get away with it, and at the same time, talk about how people can expect to stay in their parents saving up for a home until they’re at least, wait, twenty five 
It’s a sop to the employers. They’re legally adults at 18, expected to take on all the burdens that confers. Pay them like fucking adults.
Is that 7.85 a week or a month as I have been paying my maids too much if its weekly.
I was about to write yesterday that we pay well above the living wage but thinking about it, we have an apprentice who will be on less than it.
However if it wasn’t for the fact she was an apprentice and cheap, we wouldn’t have been able to take her on. She gets a years work experience and training out of it, we get an extra person, help with admin etc.
Does this make me A) evil B) in the slave trade c) I don’t know what a SOP is but am I getting one?
Plus p.s. She is 18 - no pics bear. Well maybe, let’s see the result of abc and see if I have to sack her. If she is sacked, I will of course send pics as usual.
The fact that your ‘apprentice’ gets locked in the cellar each night makes the answer either A) evil or D) Lucky bastard.
To answer the question sensibly, what is the difference between what you pay your concubine and what the living wage should be?
What is the annual amount that meant you could afford a slave as opposed to leaving her as a Jeremy Kyle watching benefits scrounger? *
* in the absence of real, live right-wingers here someone had to fill the vacuum.
Depends on what the apprenticeship is, I suppose. If it’s an actual apprenticeship tied to qualifications that are going to benefit her long term, then yeah, good deal for all. Apprenticeships have always been lower paid than real work, because they’ve got the long term learning component built in.
If it’s just your firm calling her an apprentice it sounds better than slave wages, then fuck you, Tokes. Fuck. You.
I think we’re clear. 
To be honest the government part is doing fuck all. They are supposed to come once a week or she goes to college once a week. They came after a couple of weeks and asked loads of ridiculous health and safety questions, no sign of them for months, I chased them a few times and some useless guy turned up and ticked boxes with her saying what she had done. They didn’t ask me or her supervisor a thing, I asked a few questions but he was full of excuses and just interested in the ashes.
We didn’t see him again for a couple of months, I complained again and it looked like he’d been sacked or moved on. They sent someone else who was better, let’s see if she comes back. trainers
The government are desperate to get people into apprenticeships so the can say “last year we helped X thousand into apprenticeship positions”, these training companies are desperate for the training grants, get them in and worry about hiring and training trainers or not later. Poor girl just left with us to show her the ways of the world. This is her first job, god help her!
The lost generation,
Small government. Decentralisation. Devolve power to local people to make local decisions. Sounds like its all good.
To answer Bletch, the least we could offer was something mental, like £45 per week or something like that. My business partner would probably have been up for this but eve for a teen living at home, this would have been slavery. She is on a coupe of hundred quid a week and seems happy. She lives at home in a fairly well off family, drives a newish car and I think this is just pocket money and experience. Other people that work for us did a year or two in unpaid internships (not with us), that’s the real slave trade.
I have a mate who owns a successful fashion PR company. Companies like that that offer jobs that sound good to your mates/girls will always have loads of people knocking on the door offering to work for free. Taking them up on this offer (bearing in mind he worked for just under a year for free himself at that age to gain experience), does that make him an evil slave trader?
Plus ps, the girls who work/slave for him as seriously fit.