The Right Back Conundrum

For the amount of money Martina cost, he’s not actually been too bad. Cedric is good sometimes, but Koeman clearly has doubts. I’d still play him ahead of Martina though. Like others, ive been saying for ages that RB is the main position we need to sort out and I’m hoping that we buy someone better than Cedric this summer. I’d still keep Martina as he cant be on huge wages and is useful. I certainly wouldn’t be wanting Yoshida at RB.

Not sure who I’d want us to buy as I don’t know enough about right backs but for me, it’s got to be our number one priority this summer. Then I think we need to sort back up keeper…either signing Steklenberg or someone else. I doubt we will do much more than that as Koeman says he’s happy with the squad. Only replacing those who leave…so a DM for Wanyama, maybe an AM for Mane and possibly a CF to replace Pelle (cheeky Benteke bid as mentioned on here recently would be good).

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I’m still a fan of Clyne. Bit of a shame that he went last year, but I can’t see him moving. Quality player that now has a quality manager.

Didn’t Chambers fill in a couple of times there? Any chance of getting him back from Emirates Torture Garden?

Martina got skinned approx 50 times in the first half vs Spurs srs.

Although tbf one time he got skinned I remember going FFS MARTINA! and then the camera zoomed in + it was Mane, so maybe only 49 times srs.

I wasn’t saying Yoshi should play at RB; I agree he is much better at CB, just that he barely gets a game anywhere now which is sad RIP

Is Martina only on a one year contract? Personally I would like to see a new RB and I know this wont be popular but I would move on Yoshi too. He just doesnt have the mentality for Premiership football, even at CH. Poistioning and awareness are crucual and he makes too many mistakes at this level. We have given away too many sloppy goals this season. Sort out the defence and we will have another good season next year.

Inspired by our sales to Arsenal. May as well go here.

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although he played a great pass to Tadic for the goal. Couple games ago he also played a great ball (again to Tadic) - think it was the Man city game

I think they both offer something different, and have a role to play.

But ultimately, it is a case of them “doing a job for us”.

Martina DAJFU when we want someone relatively solid to sit deep and stand in people’s way. This works better when the people in whose way he stands are not playing for Saints. His downside is a lack of footballing intelligence and creative flair.

Cedric DAJFU when we’re set up on the full on attack and expect to have a lot of possession, leaving Cedric relatively free from defensive responsibility, as he is a very good crosser of the ball. Also works well when we set up in the 3-5-2 with Wing Backs. He is decent in the tackle, but his downside seems to be a lack of defensive positional awareness. Which to be fair, is not an ideal flaw for a Right Back. :lou_wink_2:

Ideally, we could feed them both into the hallowed Black Box™ and fuse them both together (re-animator styley), to make a more complete player.

Alternatively, we could go out and purchase a quality Right Back that can actually do both. Defend and attack. It sounds a good idea to me, but then, what the fuck do I know? :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Originally posted by @Jack-Schitt

Ideally, we could feed them both into the hallowed Black Box™ and fuse them both together (re-animator styley), to make a more complete player.

Someone clearly hasn’t remembered the lessons of The Fly (1986).

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Lol. Thanks Pap. I had long since forgotten that horriffic image which so traumatised my childhood, until now.

And that was a good thing.

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I’ll just put this out there

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Unfortunately, just after that, his leg fell off. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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I never realised quite hom much that ball bent, about as much as that Roberto Carlos free kick in the world cup I would have thought.

Yet where is his goal of the season nomination??

People who crticise Yoshi have invalidated themselves from any discussion about defenders. Said people are more like sheep following the populist opinion.

Given game time Yoshi has proved to be a more than capable CB, unfortuantely he does not fare so well at LB or RB and that is what clouds people’s judgement of him.

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Originally posted by @BTripz

People who crticise Yoshi have invalidated themselves from any discussion about defenders. Siad people are more like sheep foloowing the populist opinion.

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Someone really needs to photoshop a Saints kit on to a Yoshi image…

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Pap is probably working on that right now… :lou_wink_2:

Originally posted by @BTripz

People who crticise Yoshi have invalidated themselves from any discussion about defenders. Siad people are more like sheep foloowing the populist opinion.

Given game time Yoshi has proved to be a more than capable CB, unfortuantely he does not fare so well at LB or RB and that is what clouds people’s judgement of him.

Nope, sorry but I formed the view of Yoshi by watching him play, not by reading what people say about him on TSW (where he gets a fair amount of support as well as slagging). He is less of a liability at CH because he has more cover, but he still makes way too many crucial mistakes for a Premiership quality player. He seems to lack a basic awareness of what is going on around him whichever position he plays. He tries hard and has a good attitude, but it would be hard to see him getting a game in many other Premiership teams. I used to think he was worth a place on the bench but now I think we would be better off selling him and brininging on a youngster.

If Harry Kane had scored that you can imagine the wankfest! For me this has to be goal of the season. It looks especially brilliant from behind as you can really see the bend on the ball. Awesome strike.