:tories: Tories in trouble?

Originally posted by @CB-Saint

My observations for all this:

The current proposals go too far in the sense that there should be some sort of transitional process - You can’t just turn off the tap.

Quite. If they can phase in or limit policy because it helps business ( e.g. minimum wage increases ), then they should be doing the same for people.

All changes to the tax credit system were going to be unpopular - it the tories had watered them down from the off, they would still face opposition. Maybe they went for the worst possible scenario knowing that they had room to gve a bit and still get what they wanted whilst taken a bit of flak now.

I don’t agree with the principle of Tax Credits. Employers should pay a full living wage to anyone 18 and over. What we’ve got is a gutless government that has had its policy rejected by many of its own members.

Labour should have been murdering the Tories over this - I think they have given the Tories an easier ride than the tories could ever have hoped for.

What else should they have done that they didn’t do? The issue has been campaigned for since it was raise. The Tories just lost.

For me it’s not even the subject matter, it’s the fact that the PM can blatantly lie to get votes and thinks that no one will notice.

Thatcher did it, Blair did it, and the voters still herded into Polling Stations to support them.

And sadly, this uncaring attitude to the weakest in society is what most people voted for.

It’s called democracy - but it isn’t pretty.

Don’t get old, don’t get ill, and whatever you do, don’t fall on hard times.

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Are they bollocks they are a shower of cunts, they are the cheap brass at the end of the bar with a dose.

Best looiking girl at the bar maybe Cherts, but as we know, the best loking are to often leave you dissapointedm as they tend to be a narcistic, self absorbed and generaly the beauty is superficial, often with a vacuous or mean-spirited core… :lou_is_a_flirt:

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Enough about me lets move on…

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https://vine.co/v/eY5BqxtdUUM

Thats what comes of doing late night stints - the Mps don’t have time to go home and get changed before they go out

Chart showing who will lose what.

Sickening and I hate the bastards, whilst benefits should not subsidise cheap labour there is no gaurantee that the market will pick up the difference, in fact why would they when the economy is shrinking, labour fucked up but these bastards are doing it for ideological reasons, utter cunts.

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Why do you think the economy is shrinking (still)? IMF forecast is for 2.5% growth in the UK.

Well growth is lower than forecast

I prefer the IMF in the Mission Impossible films. They save countries, not fuck them up.

Not shrinking though

“Growth” in and of itself is misleading. You can ramp your GDP up massively if you start selling things off to the private sector. Is that a good thing? The “growth” there is just growth in revenue, helped by not having things like “democracy” to worry about.

Given the zeal and level of privatisation, and the costs associated with turning public sector businesses into private sector ones, you’d expect “growth” to be through the roof.

Oh dear. Do we have an anti growth agenda now? Growth is a good thing. Yes, less than forecast a while back, but still a healthy level and ahead of many other developed nations. And definitely not shrinking. UK grown every quarter since 2013. Employment at an all time high. Sorry doom mongers but while its not perfect it is the envy of many countries.

Where is the growth and in what jobs?

Nah, more a recognition of what growth is and that as defined, it’s not always desirable.

The US system has long had the exorbitant costs of healthcare and maintaining the world’s highest prison population factor into its GDP. A sane system would actively be trying to reduce costs incorporated with both.

Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez

Originally posted by @Bucks

Oh dear. Do we have an anti growth agenda now? Growth is a good thing. Yes, less than forecast a while back, but still a healthy level and ahead of many other developed nations. And definitely not shrinking. UK grown every quarter since 2013. Employment at an all time high. Sorry doom mongers but while its not perfect it is the envy of many countries.

Where is the growth and in what jobs?

You could read the link you posted maybe. Or others.