Blimey @saint-or-sinner - were you studding yourself out?
If only. Truth is, that when you’re in a city and you have good contacts in the local community, you will get lots of offers.
If you’re white, you’re a millionaire(in their minds) and a good catch. It’s all about money. You get offered different deals. Normal one is just get her in the country(if there’s family already here) but some are the full wife role. They see it as, stay were they are(poop and overpopulated) or go were the streets are paved in gold and everyone’s a millionaire, that’s blissfully happy.
I’m not joking, they believe this. Ok maybe not the golden streets, which is surprising as they have a golden temple. Not that much of a leap to golden streets really. Certainly more believable than blissfully happy Britsih.
The weird thing is, that Indians are probably the happiest people i have ever met. Why move. Just have less children.
Since the death of the Empire, few of stolen and inherited wealth want to live here, invest and have a place for tax purposes maybe.
“By there” I mean India, the persecuted go to Kerala and Goa as the tourists treat them better (Karnataka is a really really poor state), the Goan’s use them for work, Muslims, Kasmiris, Goans and Indians of the lower class all sort of getting on better than India so I am told, the bloke I know who has married a scouser can’t or couldn’t leave (as far as I know) as he is lower caste and from the Muslim faith, he is from Mumbai but still can’t due to their horrendous systems can’t get a passport to travel, I know for a fact he hasn’t been here to England but his son has with his mum.
Imagine that?
Imagine what? A Britsih woman has visited Britain with her son, that more than likely also has a Britsih passport.
Maybe the husband just has a fear of flying. More common than most people would believe. As you say, you don’t know.
Still dismissing our horrendous class problems, but happy to focus on others as long as they’re not white westerners.
Stick to being the tourist, it won’t interfere with your preconceived ideas. It would be demoralising for you to find out that people in other countries are happier than their supposed superiors in the West.
So you don’t find it strange an Indian can get a passport (the lad was born in Goa) and his father is also Indian but can’t?
Our class problems are massive but have declined (since World War I I did say that).
No doubt you are fully aware many Goans can reside in the UK and do as they can hold a European passport.
White Westerners? Don’t be soft Saint lad.
OK, last time.
Your said yourself you don’t know, so stop making things up to suit your warped view.
Our class problems did indeed decline when you state, but you ignore the last 30 odd years. Look at the division of wealth since the 70’s or 80’s.
Irrelevant.
India, with a population of roughly 1.25 billion(more than Europe and North America put together) has rather less problems than the west and that’s not including the problems the West loves to export, just the ones at home. White westerners indeed.
There’s a thread title for you @barry-sanchez “the problems the West has caused”. That could run for a long long time. @pap would no longer be able to do a 9 hour day, as i have a feeling he’s already got a rather long list ready, that he’d be quite eager to discuss with you. You could be the defender of the west, a British Donald Trump if you like.
Go on, if we’re so much better, it’ll be easy. You’re the history buff. Said so yourself.
Division of wealth is not the same as the class system, not at all.
I do know he couldn’t get a passport due to the caste system and discrimination, I was there at the time in 2012 when they were having all the issues.
No Saint I simply don’t hate the West, I point out the good and bad, the good for instance is the right to offend and be offended, freedom of speech and well a passport and money to use it.
The West has done many bad things and continues to do so but name me one Nation with no blood on its hands?
I’ll be waiting a long long time.
But you didn’t. Only the good.
Can you see your problem yet?
Its thrown a spanner into the works for people who believe that one can reasonable be said to be ‘transgender’ (as in - a man in a woman’s body or vice versa) as its a little tricky to find a basis upon which to argue that this lady is wrong, is white, and just jolly well has to put up with it if you believe that say, Caitlin Jenner is in fact a woman.
Lol fucking amazing that she’s actually doubled down on this though.
hehe … as the Transracial thread inevitably morphs into Social Integration Mk2
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none of this shit is relevant, you cunts
It’s almost impressive how limitless your ability to demonstrate what an idiotic hypocrite you are is.
That’s not a very nice thing to say. How am I being a hypocrite?
Oh well, the main thing is that it hasn’t wound you up at all. That would rather prove my point.
Haha, “you mad”. Impressive.
Hypocrisy is a very specific charge KRG; to what extent have I been hypocritical on the issue?
You’ve been somewhat rude in your approach, but if I’ve applied a double standard or someone has identified a flaw in my logic, then I’m grateful for the opportunity to re-assess my thinking.
My suggestion would be to do a ‘bit of the ol Google’ and look at the biologists that have found biological differences between cis and transgender people.
Then perhaps have a think before making uniformed comments based on your susceptibility to propaganda.
Ah I see.
So you can’t actually find any examples of me being hypocritical. It was just a word you threw out there out of sheer rage. Oh well, no worries.
Besides, who’s to say things won’t go the other way?
Maybe Rachel Dolezal is right, maybe being transracial is indeed a thing and therefore she is indeed a black person by the same standards by which Caitlin Jenner is a woman.
If it happens in a decade or so, you’ll probably be on internet forums spewing your fury against people who believe that they are ‘otherkin’, and their right to be respected as a ‘transpecies’ cat or wolf or whatever, is just as legitimate as transracial people, the kind of whom Ms Dolezal is now a respected pioneer.
You never can predict the future.
My Bets over the weekend seem to prove this wrong up $520.00
Perhaps you’re right.
If science suggests we’re both wrong and that transracial is a thing, I may well be more inclined to believe it.
Well I certainly wouldn’t rule it out. After all, how much of an investigation has there been into it?
Scientists have discovered that people who claim to feel/be the opposite gender have different patterns within their brain when scanned. This doesn’t surprise me at all. I mean its a fairly ‘radical’ thing to feel/believe and it makes sense that there’d be evidence for it when scanning someone’s brain.
What’s up for debate is whether or not we as a society ought to call these people who were born with balls and willies ‘women’ (or the reverse) on account of that finding. The science might have proven that, y’know, something’s “going on” there when you scan a transgender person’s brain, but how you define someone’s gender is still up for debate. Maybe society adheres more closely to the truth by simply saying “sorry Bruce, I know you feel like a woman and when we scanned your brain, we can certainly see why…but er…well, sorry but you simply are a man.”
Me personally? I don’t know any transgender people, but if I met one, I’d be happy to call them what they’d like to be called. I see no real reason to be rude or confrontational and its not a massive issue.
Anyway, back to the question of how you’d do something similar for race; I’d wager that if we were to conduct brain scans across the likes of Ms Dolezal, as well as your stereotypical ‘wigga’ character from South London (white person who’d like to be black), I daresay you might well find some interesting patterns similar to what you find with transgender people.
I mean for instance, one study shows that people’s visceral reactions to pain represented in other races doesn’t trigger the same empathetic response…
So, suppose we got a bunch of white wannabe-blacks, put them through a test like this in a scientifically controlled study, and find that contrary to your typical white guy, they actually do feel a similar amount of empathy for black people and display none of the racial biases you’d expect to see - or perhaps even the reverse - displaying more empathy for blacks than they do for other whites.
If, on top of this, they claimed that they really were a black person trapped in the body of a white person, would they have as much claim to being transracial as Caitlin Jenner has to being transgender?
I think you’d have to say they would.
As I say, this hasn’t been investigated. Like with most scientific experiments nowadays, securing funding is the issue.