Unregistered Schools

Are you agreeing with or accepting of segregation by religion?

Baz, can you read? SoS is not accepting segregation by faith (= religion right SoS?)

Your needing to ask in brackets is the reason I asked myself, he could be being sarcastic or flippant, wouldn’t be the first time. Anyway lets keep to the subject.

Yeah that’s about it Cob. I don’t have a big issue with one’s that take at least 50% on a non religious criteria. I spent my whole schooling in supposed Catholic schools(70%+ non Catholic. 99%+ non practicing), even had a nun as a teacher, but no one ever mentioned religion apart from at Christmas and Easter(probably a couple more, i can’t remember, no chocolate or presents involved). I don’t see this kind of school as segregating, but will accept the argument that they guarantee a disproportionate % to a single religious background if they want, so it can be dangerous.

Barry, are you agreeing with, or accepting of segregation by wealth? Is segregation entirely wrong, or is some segregation ok for you?

Barry, the words “No separation by faith or wealth” are quite clear, don’t you think?

I totally agree, faith schools should be done under the trades description act for a start, religion should be seen as a leisue pursuit and done in the spare time.

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Leisure pursuit. I like that.

Not sure the religious will, but the wealthy won’t mind(unless it interferes with tax avoidance). What do you think?

No separation by faith or wealth and no school charitable status, unless all schools have the same . You agree?

How about a radical idea?

Segregate schools based on ability? Then target the education to their ability.

No religion no wealth just ability.

Nah that would never work. No evidence to show that system empowered anyone…

Schools, or in school Phil?

I can definitely go along with the second, but the first just promotes elitist feelings for those going to the smarter school, whilst the latter makes all abilities mix(not in the classroom admittedly).

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The poor hygiene photo reminds of a kitchen in a shared house I lived in during my student days in Brizzel.

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Totally.

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Personally, I am waiting to hear what the Chinese have to say.

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Kids develop at different speeds though @dubai_phil , if you start holding them back early the late bloomers will never get the education they need and vice-versa, some kids are really bright early on and then flounder…

Streams in schools is the best answer I think.

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Bit harsh @sadoldgit , @barry-sanchez is actually raising a valid, non hysterical, issue.

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Mr Git isn’t concerned about validity, never has been with me, agenda driven, all cool though, his cross to bear not mine.

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Correct.

So move kids

To the RIGHT School for their sjkills

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Becoming Polish already @dubai_phil :lou_lol:

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And what would that agenda be Barry?

As a man of the world, I know that there are countries in the world that have no state education. I know that in many of these countries, religious institutions are the only people providing education, and that usually comes at the cost of indoctrination. Pakistan is particularly afflicted.

As someone that has followed education policy for the last quarter of a century, I know the place of private schools, and that we have legal faith schools that practice their faiths to varying degrees, but can all be inspected because we know they exist. They’re registered.

Barry has utterly surprised me by starting a very interesting thread. It’s about unregistered schools, those that purposefully operate outside the bounds of the law, are not subject to any real oversight and perhaps unsurprisingly, are now being mentioned in relation to abuse.

These are highly coercive environments, some of the survivor stories are horrific, the least of which involves teenagers born in Britain not being able to speak English with any fluency, some of the worst of which involves the grim content in Barry’s eventually linked article.

I reckon the topic has a specific merit of its own. My personal view is that these schools must be appalling for the individuals concerned and corrosive for society at large.

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