Just bizarre. Given I hate being told what to do or how to behave, it just makes me want to wear one less! Iâll show respect in my own way, thanks.
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FFS people in this country always complaining and criticising. Regardless of the fact that she has been wearing one, even if she wasnât, so what, is it anybody elseâs business? Theyâre not compulsory.
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Iâm getting a little tired of the collective outrage that wails across social media whenever someone doesnât conform to an establishment norm. Personally, I think that the role of the poppy gets a little murkier when we start applying it to conflicts weâve been involved in after the Second World War. I have every sympathy with it being used to commemorate the servicemen and women that died in those conflicts, but I disagree with the way that remembrance is used to validate the causes they were made to fighr for, which in almost all cases, was ultimately Western self-interest.
According to Oliver Stoneâs Untold History of the United States, there is very little taught in schools about Vietnam, arguably the darkest moment in the nationâs short history. 3.9 million dead in Vietnam itself, another 1.5 million across Laos and Cambodia, mostly in service of Kissingerâs refusal to believe that Vietnam did not have a breaking point. A decade later, Reagan is speaking about the just cause of the 54,000 Americans that died in Vietnam, and that they should feel no shame for what they did as a nation. Lessons learned there, then.
If youâre going to wear a poppy, white is the way to go. You honour the fallen without validating the policy.
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I would suggest that it is far more disrespectful to swan into a broadcasting studio, having a poppy stuck on your chest by a floor manager than it is to quietly and privately remember people who sacrificed their lives for subsequent generations without wearing a poppy.
Poppy fascism makes me sick
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Originally posted by @pap
Iâm getting a little tired of the collective outrage that wails across social media whenever someone doesnât conform to an establishment norm.
Yes, except Iâm also getting tired of the collective outrage about the collective outrage that wails across social media. Some of that collective outrage does good.
I like social media.
My maternal grandfather was a POW and my paternal grandfather was in the Navy in the second world war. I really donât feel I need to wear a poppy to show respect/remember etc. I donât think all people on TV have to wear one. Did they photo shop one onto Cameronâs facebook picture? It;s just getting a bit ridiculous. I donât remember it being such an issue when I was a kid.
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100% my way of thinking, everyone is individual, just cause someone does not sing the national anthem, does not mean they are not patriotic. I have full respect for all in the forces, but I do not wear a poppy, but I give money to in other ways and will hold a minute silents on Sunday in my youth game and wear a black armband during the game.
People just love to judge and second guess people and tend to get it all horribly wrong!
Just watching tv this evening and EVERYONE is wearing a poppy. I suppose it is the fear of what âpeopleâ will say if they do not? I think it is the feeling of being forced that makes me not want to, in a lot of things in life. I do not give in to pressure.
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I donât wear one out of respect to my g.grandad who was, according to family legend, conscientious objector, but in point of actual fact was massive coward who avoided the draft by feigning injury + getting job as greengrocer RIP that is the bear way. That is what I would do also RIP
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Sometimes i wear a poppy, sometimes I donât. Sometimes I donate, sometimes I donât. It come down to how I feel at the time. Itâs about my choice and if the social media keyboard warriors donât like it, they can go and get fucked.
This, we are all individuals and do things are own way. It seems to be the people on the tv that get it in the neck. I have never been stopped when walking down the street and been asked where my poppy was!
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I like the Poppy appeal because it reminds me that I would like to donate to the collection towards the injured, those suffering PTSD etc. I feel strongly in support of those who have served and in that respect, dont give a monkeys about the political issues behind the various conflicts. Sometimes I wear the poppy, sometimes I forget. But without them I imagine I would forget to support the cause.
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I donât always wear one but I do respect the sacrifice made by othersâŚor should I say in WW1 the feeling that they were sacrificed by others. One of them was my grandfather and although nearly 100 years ago I got to realise the effect it had on people I knewâŚmy grandmother, mother and her brothers and sisters.
My grandmother had to raise 5 children on a war widowâs pensionâŚwhich was pennies. My grandmother never remarriedâŚit was hardly likely, there being a considerable shortage of men after WW1.
I will probably be out at the Awbridge War Memorial on Rememberance Sunday to pay my respectsâŚhis name is the only one on the memorial for WW1.
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I like the Poppy Appeal too. Lovely tradition and important to remember. The art installation with poppies over Tower of London was one of the most beautiful things Iâve seen for decades.
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You soon changed your tune. As soon as a couple of people expressed their support for the poppy appeal, youâre all âoh, I love the poppiesâ whereas in post 2 of this thread youâre saying âI wonât wear a poppy to remember some old codgerâ. Youâve bowed to public expectation, the worst sort of public bowing. Show some backbone and stick to your guns. You hate the veterans and poppies, be brave enough to stand by your convictions.
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Sod off Fatso!
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Its grown into a monster and Iâm not too sure all the people who wear it wear it for the right reasons, I only wear it a few days before remembrance Sunday.
I tend to wear a Poppy from the Monday after Rememberance Sunday as you can often find them discarded on the floor and the theyre free.
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