Football, cricket and rugby.
bad luck
I think there is probably more too it then luck, possibly we are poor at the key moments and can not take the pressure, failure to produce genuine World class players etc etc.
We are pretty good at cricket again, granted it may be temporary.
On a home wicket that seams yes indeed. We are in fact getting worse, we need a new opener, Bell is questionable and the 5/6 still haven’t sorted themselves out yet, we have no spinner and Broad and Anderson are no spring chickens.
Snooker, Darts and shovehappeny we are still world champions at.
Ummm, a Jock is the Darts world champion at the moment, at least in one of the governing bodies the other one really cannot be taken seriously.
Really? I thought Phil Taylor was still going.
On average you only get one great sportsman per 3.82m population, and we’re spreading our too thin. We should just pick one sports, and be the best at that. I would suggest i.e. Polo.
Originally posted by @Bearsy
On average you only get one great sportsman per 3.82m population, and we’re spreading our too thin. We should just pick one sports, and be the best at that. I would suggest i.e. ** Polo**
Bear I do not like Polo’s can we do Spangles instead?
When I was a kid it was drummed into me it is not win or lose, its how you play the game. We have long been the plucky losers and I think a lot of our problem is that we dont breed the winning mentality. A few slip through the net - the likes of Ian Botham who is more Aussie in his mentality. Also it is all cyclical. No club or country remains dominant for any great length of time though - look at the once mighty Brazilians!
SOG the Brazilian is stll almighty to me I fall to pieces at the mearest sight of one.
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Getting worse??? Yes the Opener position is still up for grabs, but as for bowlers, Rashid and Ali have done very well, while Wood, Willey and Plunkett are queueing up for a starting 11 spot and all of them can bat. Vince is knocking on the door, while Topley has already featured.
Mentality wrong.
Disenfranchisement and slicing up of the working class.
Materialism.
Feminism.
No playing fields.
Simon Cowell.
That’s not everything, but it’s a start.
Edit: added ‘up’.
We have the wrong approach.
Rather than hoping to win at our favourite sports, we need to find something we are good at and make that our new favourite.
Elephant polo? Ker Plunk? Cheese-rolling?
We need new national sports.
All down to funding and grass roots init!
English FA - Richest
RFU - Richest
ECB - 2nd Richest
We have never been consistently at the top in any of these sports for a long period and have never dominated.
Got knocked out in the first round of the World Grand Prix by Vincent van der Vaart last night. And Gary Anderson is currently the PDC World Champion. A local lad (from the New Forest) is currently the BDO world champion but no-one cares about the BDO.
Tai Woffindin is currently the SpeedWay World Champion (for the second time).
Lewis Hamilton is currently the F1 World Champion
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As SOG said it all goes back to the shift in the 80s that winning wasn’t important and competition was actually bad for your children.
We’ve had a shift in our cricket mentality recently in that we used to go out not to lose, now we go out to win.
In all seriousness I see the grass roots at youth level every week and have done for the last 6 years. If anything it has got worse. Clubs are being priced out of facilities and closing down as they are down to the bear bones!
The money from the top is not filtering down to the youth level, for male and female development.
If only some of the players could give a little as well as the very rich premier league!
I do not see that mentality on a Sunday morning, in football anyway, it is very win at all costs, which I think sport should be like. You hear this more in schools than on the pitch at local clubs. Why play if you do not do it to win!?