25 Years old this summer

Not me, I wish.

No, the EFL hits this milestone this summer. I’m pretty sure plenty on here will want to rage against the machine that it has become.

Equally, I am sure that many publications will produce detailed and interesting historical and opinionated articles to mark the event.

I posted the first link in the VVD thread and will post that next.

Here is the opener of the story from (no paywall) Guardian.

This stuff is aimed to be read over your morning coffee or on the train to work. I’m sure it will get derailed as some debate why “The Working Class” can’t get into a game for 6 quid anymore, why it took so long for footballers to out themselves or why so few Asians play the game in the UK.

For me, it’s interesting history when you find more stuff stick it in here

I’ve tried to post the full story but it is too long and full of hyperlinks.

The betrayal of fans

Apart from the players and agents becoming wealthy beyond reason, I am not sure what benefit there has been. Its not like the England team became shit hot.

Lots of accountants became rich creating tax avoidance schemes

The problem with modern football is that it’s lost its edge. The young and working class can’t afford to go anymore so it’s full of 40/50+ yr old middle classes, eating their prawn sandwiches. They get boxes bought for them by their companies. Even the stewards are Tarquins doing a gap year. I can’t get a ticket half the time because of the proseco drinking brigade. What we need is a limit…75% of tickets for under 25s or working class and 25% for the over 50s. And mandatory fighting.

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You sound like Barry on the Glastonbury thread

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CB :lou_lol: :lou_facepalm_2: go hide :lou_wink_2:

Think Pap needs to create a new badge.

WHOOSH of the year.

Modern football is shit.

The English game is still shit.

Atmosphere shit.

Kick off times shit

Expense shit

Plastic Jonny come latelys shit

Football being called a product shit

Endless clubs stream of moving forward shit

Absolute shit to what it used to be and that is not rose tinted glasses, a middle class middle aged game now and its all the shitter for it.

What is the average age of the person in the stadium now?

Wankers.

I agree, but how would you define working-class?

I’d set it at no more than a £30k income - which would be hilarious as it’d keep out the fucking train drivers. Rich cunts.

Class is a state of mind, not money but we digress my poor tory bastard.

…but seriously,

reality is that there isn’t much I can add to any of this. Old school football is dead but as a young guy I guess I’m glad I managed to experience a half-decent taste of it in the lower leagues. I do miss those days. There’s something purer about paying £11 quid for a shitty paper ticket in a shitty away ground when you know that fans of both clubs have a real commitment to their team - and that the clubs are a true part of the local community, rather than a massive global business.

Oh well.

That is bullshit Mr T I earn a lot more than 30K but am still working class because I am bloody working for a living to keep my family in the comfort that they desire.

And I cant get a ticket because they dont tend to keep a ready stock available for overseas visiting fans which really pisses us off.

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Hahaha what a load of bollocks.

How would you define working-class then? With an MRI scan?

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A trader in the city earning £250k can make exactly the same claim.

Many people earn over £30,000, if I earned over £100,000 a year I wouldn’t automatically be middle class, where I live is comfortably middle class but that doesn’t make me so.
I think you aspire to be something that is not there.

Alright I take your point.

The main thing I’m saying is simply that its very difficult for modern football to ‘preserve’ or ‘guard against’ the loss of a proper down-to-Earth working-class (however you define it) fanbase.

Only thing you could maybe do is lower the ticket prices but no club will ever do that unilaterally. So pfft. Here we are.

If you have to work to live, you’re working class.

Sleep tight, scumbag :lou_sunglasses:

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Fuck off the lot of you

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