I say this, but come to think of it, it was one of those mini boxes, but I poured it in a bowl. So both?
Lou, you donât have a beard and you donât eat cereal for ÂŁ2.50-4.50 for a bowl in a shop. Youâre alright you are.
Fuck off Fatso!! I said I liked beards, and I would go in the cereal cafe if they served tea. Donât try and pretend Iâm one of the good guys now!
Originally posted by @Coxford_lou
Nice bit of justification from Esther there. Hope that makes you feel better about it all.
I think most people would feel pretty pissed off if their rent doubled. I know I would.
My experience of âhipstersâ is that they are generally a pretty placid bunch, kids doing daft things to be different or stand out or whatever. When I go out in a so called âhipsterâ area, I never feel threatened, or intimidated (at least, not by the hipsters). But theyâre easy to mock, easy to pick on, and now it seems, easy to blame.
As I said earlier, I donât condone the violence, but I can see why that specific premises was chosen. Symbolically, there arenât many better examples of the exploitation of capitalism than people charging more for a bowl of cereal than it would normally cost to get a box.
I see things from the business ownersâ side too. Those are the prices they feel they need to charge to cover their overheads, and I have zero reason to dispute that, but they, just like most other people in London, are being exploited too.
For that reason, I agree with the comment in the Guardian piece, about there being more legitimate targets for a demonstration than the cereal bar, despite its symbolic appeal. The demonstrators are only really damaging small players when itâs the game they actually hate.
Shoreditch has got ridiculously expensive because the bankers have bought it out, not because of hipsters. People who get drunk on Brick Lane arenât hipsters.
The new âin areaâ moves about in London, largely driven by financial pressure from the top. Brixton has completely changed in the time Iâve known it, demographically speaking. Really though, itâs an unregulated market that has caused the massive price inflation, underpinned by the huge demand.
Rent controls and more council housing will be needed if average earners are ever going to have a stake in London. Right now, many of the poorest are having to move out, priced out by a combination of the free market and the housing benefit cap. I was at intinikiâs party awhile back and was speaking to a lady that had bought in London, and recommended I do the same. Her view was that you can buy something, live in it for five years, and sell it for a huge profit. London is a great city for the rich, but is an increasingly shit or downright untenable proposition for the poor.
Reality is, most of you wouldnât be able to tell the difference between an artist and a hipster.
And thatâs the trouble when you lump people together in a group, and you follow group mentality. People arenât individuals anymore. Theyâre just hipsters, and hipsters have ruined it for me.
I have always been amused at the way rejection of conformity leads to conformity in different colours. Pretty much every youth phenomenon has had an unofficial uniform, be it the darkness of the goths, DMs for skinheads, leather jackets for metalheads and tracksuits for criminally-inclined young adults.
I can remember a time when people actually labelled themselves âalternativeâ, begging the obvious (and oft-asked) âalternative to fucking what?â question in the college refectory. They all looked the same.
These Anarchist guys look a bit silly, with their masks and anti shredded wheat protests.
At some point there must have been a strategy meeting where they decided to target the cereal shop.
Its not the shop its what they sell and the throwaway attitude, sure its the customerâs money but why not in Soho or Camden? Too expensive but also too expensive for the local residents, the channel 4 interview is funny as that fellow wants to cut it short as he doesnât like the questions (perfectly valid ones).
These wank bean and mango shops really fuick me off, they claim to unpretentious and yet are exactly that, I know a few of these types unfortunately and they really fuck me off, the vain, self interested middle class (never admitting it) exploitive cunts.
And I donât really have any animosity towards the middle class in many regards.
Not a fan of hipsters, trying to be something theyâre not (middle classes âslumming itâ in East London because they think itâs cool), but whatever, each to their own. Certainly shouldnât be vilified if what theyâre doing isnât hurting or discriminating against people. People need to calm down, relax, and let others be.
Seems these guys have been getting a Frostie reception since thier opening.
Badum tscchhhâŠ
Originally posted by @KRG
Seems these guys have been getting a Frostie reception since thier opening.
I gather they have a mailing list of the first 1,000 customers to register. They refer to them as the âSpecial Kâ.
Ha sorry guys. Couldnât resist, was mostly surprised someone hadnât gone for that tap in yet tbh.
Ok, so people say you can get a box of cereal and milk for less, but you could say the same about a lot of things.
Me for one drink far to much of the best coffee shop coffee, at COSTA. This cost me ÂŁ2.85 a cup. I could by a jar and some milk for this. Also when I went out for a meal at the weekend, it cost me ÂŁ97 for a 3 course meal and some drink. Probably cost them about a quarter of that to make for me.
You could pretty much attack all shops that buy wholesale and shift it on to the end user for a massively inflated price.
I cabnot get my head around this attack and can only put it down to discrimination as the attackers see these people as âdrifferentâ. No matter which way you jazz it up, it is a discrimination attack and not on!
Inclined to agree with this, itâs a dumb line of attack imo. Ultimately, if itâs a shite idea and people think it is a rip off - people wonât go. Itâs not as if rent is going to be cheap along Brick Lane, and thereâs no shortage of other cafĂ©s to chose from. Not that I think that the markets are infalible or should be gauged as the barometer of all things, but this just seems so hard down on the list of things to go after that it baffles me the amount of abuse thrown their way.
Donât get me wrong, itâs a wanky (and not even very original) idea, but so is the cat cafĂ© which is like 2 streets away. That got nowhere near the level of abuse that Cereal Killer got. But yeah, itâs 2 dudes with beards so people can get on that hate hype.
If you take issue with the price and that is why they shouldnât be there, then really these protestors should be taking aim at everything in the area. Itâs London, and a âtrendyâ part of it at that.
Quite in agreement with papâs position here, but letâs lower the tone with a video from 5 years ago.
sfcsimâŠI agree to a certain extent that buying bowls of cereals is similar to buying cups of coffee. But it is incomparable to buying a 3 course meal at a restaurant. Those meals have the time and skill of a chef put into them. Putting some cereal into a bowl takes no time or skill and I canât see the point of going out and buying such a thing. At least with a cup of coffee they may be using a specialist machine that you donât have at home. There is nothing about this cereal place that I get. I donât want it burned to the ground or attacked and if people want to go there thatâs to to them, Iâm just bewildered by it all.
Shame Jack ainât around to defend himself against these utter melts.
Whatâs a HipsterâŠcan I be one or am I too old?
I had a pair of Rupert Bear hipsters I bought from âLord Johnâsâ in Carnaby Street in 1966âŠdoes that count?
Couple of pieces from the Guardian, here and here, from opposing viewpoints. Personally, I have far more sympathy with Audrey Gillan, the writer of the second piece. It strikes me that many of those protesting have decided that they donât like whatâs happening (and, in many ways, with good reason), but have then picked on entirely the wrong targets to take it out on. To me it seems rather like an opponent of HS2 shouting at a train driver in protest - utterly pointless. Pretty standard stuff for Class War though.
Somewhat tangentially, but given that itâs been linked to above, I think there may well be considerably more widespread opposition to the âRipper Museumâ than to the Cereal Killer cafĂ© and its ilk. Personally, I find the idea of a âmuseumâ (and letâs not pretend that it will be any more akin to a real museum than, say, the London Dungeon and its provincial counterparts) dedicated to a man who maimed and killed women pretty fucking vile. How long before Leeds unveils its new Peter Sucliffe Museum? Or maybe a Jimmy Savile one? Yuck.