TBF @philippinesaint if it was fired near the begining or middle of the conflict then 30 years would be about right, if it was fired in the last years of the conflict then this would have to be adjusted to over 29 years.
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TBF @philippinesaint if it was fired near the begining or middle of the conflict then 30 years would be about right, if it was fired in the last years of the conflict then this would have to be adjusted to over 29 years.
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And Israel butting in is really going to help stabilise the situation?
ISIS are coming under serious pressure in Syria from the legitimate government forces, every time this happens the US or Israel step in to ease the pressure on them. The bottom line is this.
Syria under Assad is a secular state, total freedom of religion, equal rights for all, male and female from primary school age to university and beyond. Beautiful christian cathedrals and churches in Syria have been destroyed, razed to the ground over the past few years by Islamic fundamentalist āmoderate rebelsā, many of them from the West, supported by our governments. Catholic priests and nuns have been slaughtered, some of them whilst protecting orphanage children. It is estimated that there are Islamic fighters from up to 90 different countries fighting to overthrow the legitimate sovereign country of Syria. Civil war my arse!
The alternative to this secular state, as desired by our governments is to overthrow Assad, a la Gaddafi, Saddam, and leave the people of Syria at the mercy of these fundamentalists. With all that entails. This is a price worth paying to leave a once stable country in chaos, thereby facilitating the gas pipeline which has the added bonus of really fucking over Russia. Large chunks of our national revenue is going on supporting this, the āmagic money treeā is in full bloom when it comes to financing this sort of thing. Two billion as a bribe to religious right wing fundamentalists in NI to get them on board, that will do nicely! But money for the NHS, nurses, firemen police etc, no no no, the āmagic money treeā has shrivelled and died.
And just wait if Brexit happens, then we really will be fucked. This country will be at the mercy of the USA, their wars will be our wars, Trumpās foreign policy will be our foreign policy, on pain of our economy being destroyed. The 51st state in all but name. Say thank you nicely to the Brexters!
Yes, you could well be right. But i did sayāin all but nameā. Fuck, i suppose āin all but nameā we probably have been the 51st for years!
Reuters, ABC etc are reporting the Israeli attack. Canāt seem to see the story on the BBC though. Am I reading too much into it?
I predict a chemical weapons attack, blamed on the Assad regime, followed by troops on the ground.
Given the red line, itās the last fucking thing in the world that Assad will want to do.
Nevertheless, you just know it will āhappenā.
course it is - Trump is a small handed, multiple bankruptee, misogynist who has a small dick (canāt verify the last point)
Heās a cock.
I see that Boris Johnson is āutterly convincedā that the evidence implicates Assad. The thing is, I, and I suspect many others, have the ability to recall memories four years past. I can remember William Hague, then foreign secretary, saying that the chances of that chemical attack being anyone but Assad were āvanishingly smallā.
No matter his prior proclamations on the use of US might, Trump has clearly been āvibrated into shapeā by the military industrial complex. Obama was too. Itāll play out the same way that it did then.
Red line. Chemical attack. Fingers pointed at Assad. Military action. Rinse and repeat.
I restate two points. First, it makes no sense for Assad to initiate such attacks in the face of the red lines, not in 2013, and not in 2017. The independent investigation into 2013 had blame pointing toward the rebels, corroborated by a French journalist, imprisoned at the time by rebels, who claimed that his captors were organisationally complicit in the attack.
Trump is a cock, but remember that Obama did exactly the same, breaking the precedent and allowing this kind of action.
Fair point @pap - though Boris and Trump are unmitigated arses and need to be dealt with to remove their malign influence on middle eastern politics (in a non violent way of corse)
Both are class A Fucknuts
The real humdinger in this is the Mediaās complicity. Here you have a Pullitzer Prize winning journalist and a respected former intelligence officer calling bullshit on this Assad is a murderous, chemical weapon wielding nutter narrative and itās had virtually no coverage.
To be honestā¦sometimes
I have never recovered from being told by a very reliable sourceā¦that the USA never landed on the moon ever
So I stopped believing a word their politicians ,CNN, New York Times etc spoutedā¦
Comparisons to our Goverments over many years
Twanging and a sanging pardner.
Textbook:
Trouble here is who do you believe?
Those who you think are the good guys?
From what I can see, there are no good guys in all of this. There are too many atrocities by both sides, too much propaganda and lies by every side to justify what they are doing.
The UK, USA, Russia all need to take a fucking good long hard look at themselves for creating such a shitstormā¦fucknuts!